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Eventine

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Supply chain is a lot longer than the final assembly step, starting from chemicals, for example.
Also have you look up where South Korea is located?
If China goes for the kill switch on the US economy, do you think a single screw can leave South Korea without Chinese approval? Do yo think South Korea can even keep it's lights on if they disobey Chinese sanctions?
Economic warfare is different from military warfare. US sanctions aren't an embargo and won't provoke embargoes from China. The real question you need to ask is how does China respond to an US economic attack on one of its national champions. With Huawei, we saw that the Chinese response was almost entirely defensive. Huawei lost its global smart phone / smart watch / gadgets business and pivoted. China did nothing to Apple's global supply chain.
 

manqiangrexue

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Such an embarassing loss for Beijing if this is true. What was all the talk about China not allowing robbery of its companies. Huh. So disappointed at Beijing if this is true.
Don't even worry about. I'm not, just watching. Other people are saying it's unreliable; we need to see what really happens. Whatever. At this point, I've seen the CCP/China beat the US at so many things while turning away from direct confrontation, I wouldn't fault them if they bought it off of ByteDance and gave it to Trump as a second term gift.

China has historically been much weaker than the US; eversince the realization that the friends of the US get richer and richer while enemies of the US get poorer and poorer, China has always used TaiChi to America's furious kickboxing. Decades later, now China's flying both of the world's only 6th gen fighters, has the best nuclear generators, trains, electric cars, telecom, social platforms, AI platforms, supercomputers, semiconductor manufacturing chain (no other country has a complete one), hypersonic weapons, the biggest economy that's expanding faster than any other major economy, etc... The most aggressive angry old white guy president in US history takes one look at China and said, "Fuck that; Ima go level-grind against Panama and Denmark."

At this point, when China makes a move that looks soft, I just watch the game like Magnus Carlson just "lost" his queen to a rookie. Don't bury your face in your hands like he's an idiot; watch for the checkmate in 2 moves.
 
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  • Stock benchmark set for longest monthly losing run since 2001
  • The “unbridled enthusiasm” has faded, Nomura’s Seth says
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even to topple China in emerging-market indexes.
 

Aligazali

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Has someone asked DS to comment on the TT refugees?

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If you ask him to play the role of Mao's jester:
Imagine, Chairman, these Americans, once waving their own flags high, now prancing about in our digital realm, paying their 'cat tax' to join the new order. They call it 'Mao tax' in jest, but perhaps they unknowingly honor you, for even their cats bow to your enduring legacy!
Now, it seems, a hundred cat photos bloom on Xiaohongshu, and a hundred memes contend for their attention.
Shall we welcome them with open arms, or shall we charge them double the cat tax? Either way, the revolution marches on—digitally!
Very few people made me laugh so much. If you want to have a DIY funny thread, go to Trump 2.0 official thread, copy paste to deepseek and ask him do debunk with irony, you won't get dissapointed. At some point he compared Tiktok thanking Donald for clarity is like thanking a tornado for rearanging your house. Not even stand up comedy artists are safe anymore.
 

Overbom

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Economic warfare is different from military warfare. US sanctions aren't an embargo and won't provoke embargoes from China. The real question you need to ask is how does China respond to an US economic attack on one of its national champions. With Huawei, we saw that the Chinese response was almost entirely defensive. Huawei lost its global smart phone / smart watch / gadgets business and pivoted. China did nothing to Apple's global supply chain.
You probably didn't hear what Wang Yi said to Rubio. US is welcome to do whatever it wants, but it should take responsibility though

China is in fact ready and loaded for whatever happens this time around. Call it an intuition, but I think that Xi is very much willing to hit back this time around.
 

9dashline

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even to topple China in emerging-market indexes.
Guys, I think StarGate $500b isnt going to work out as hoped.... Saudi probably rethinking that 600b commitment right about now plus as Musk disclosed, Sun is broke and barely can bring $10 billion to the table
 

manqiangrexue

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Economic warfare is different from military warfare. US sanctions aren't an embargo and won't provoke embargoes from China. The real question you need to ask is how does China respond to an US economic attack on one of its national champions. With Huawei, we saw that the Chinese response was almost entirely defensive. Huawei lost its global smart phone / smart watch / gadgets business and pivoted. China did nothing to Apple's global supply chain.
At the rate Huawei vs the US is going, it'd be cruel to help Huawei more LOL China might have to give the US a couple of tips just to keep it interesting.

If you want to use that as an example of how China faces the threat, then it is by innovating through all obstacles and barriers. The US starts a fight targetting cellphones/communication, ends up losing collective Western semiconductor dominance. It's literally the holy grail of victories, far superior to winning by turning it into a gov vs gov political fight.

That said, in the bigger picture, I'm not against what you're saying. America's not dead and cooked; it's got plenty of fight left and it's probably going to get more dangerous and aggressive the more it's beaten into a corner. It's a very dangerous enemy we'd be stupid to underestimate of write off.
 
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Serb

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Economic warfare is different from military warfare. US sanctions aren't an embargo and won't provoke embargoes from China. The real question you need to ask is how does China respond to an US economic attack on one of its national champions. With Huawei, we saw that the Chinese response was almost entirely defensive. Huawei lost its global smart phone / smart watch / gadgets business and pivoted. China did nothing to Apple's global supply chain.

China did nothing to Apple specifically I think because they get a shit ton of money from Apple, unlike the US which gets barely anything.

A few mega investors get shareholder returns, whereas others (government and citizens) get nothing due to tax evasion/offshoring.

America I don't think has any large companies left, in a de facto sense, they are all globalized and pay close to no taxes to the US govt and don't respect it one bit.

However, China de-dollarized their trade by 50% in the meantime, propping Russia in the war against Ukraine, propping new global gold rush as an alternative to USTs, etc.

So, this hurt Americans way more than simply banning some companies that Americans don't even benefit from much in the first place.

Apple is a global company, not a US company. So China realized this and attacked American existence by propping global de-dollarization.
 
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