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supercat

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Jewish media article abt CN demographics. The article still cited some of the typical anti CN narratives in western media.
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I would rather believe David P. Goldman and Lauren Johnston:
  • China has been preparing for an aging society for decades.
  • "Getting old before rich" is a new norm and has its advantages.
  • Demographic pressure may push China into more productive industries & up value-chain.
  • Global "young and poor" countries should learn from China.


sure, let’s give Monopoly money to Chinese AI engineers and forget about all those years of Asian hate and China virus and pogroms
Reminds me of this tweet from Arnaud Bertrand:
I'm shocked, shocked, to find out that there are more Chinese in China than in the US!


if they insist on this, China is going to expose the real truth of the CIA biovirus and US False Flag of the Century
What evidence do they have except the low confidence report from CIA?
 

Temstar

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Has someone asked DS to comment on the TT refugees?

EDIT: removed extra quotes by accident
From my own local 14b instance of DS R1, the question is too politically spicy for the web based instance of R1:

In a twist as absurd as a high-school drama, the United States recently found itself in a peculiar situation where it attempted to ban TikTok—a platform so popular it made "algorithm" a household word. Enterprising American TikTok users, in a move reminiscent of digital pioneers, migrated en masse to Red Notes (a term we'll assume is intended here), much like a modern-day Exodus, fleeing the land of the free... speech restrictions.

These self-proclaimed "TikTok refugees" arrived on new shores expecting the dystopian nightmare their government had painted with vivid strokes. Instead, they found themselves in a place where, gasp!, reality didn't align with the propaganda. The Chinese government, often portrayed as the heavy-handed censor, welcomed them with open arms and unfettered access to digital expression.

Here's the kicker: While the U.S. claims to champion free speech, it seems more adept at banning things—from social media platforms to harmless birthday greetings—than fostering an environment of genuine freedom. Meanwhile, China, the supposed pariah of internet governance, turned out to be the safe haven for these digital nomads.

The irony is rich: The land of the free spends its time policing pixels and prohibiting platforms, while the "totalitarian" regime offers a more open digital landscape. It's like discovering your favorite band's greatest hits were actually composed by someone else—a shock that leaves you questioning everything.

In this peculiar drama, we're left to ponder: Is it really about free speech, or is it just another bout of political posturing? And who knew that the Chinese government would be the unexpected hero in this story? Welcome to the new world order, where truth is stranger—and less restricted—than fiction.
No doubt the full size R1 can do even better than this. I feel like this AI can do an exceptionally good job at coming up with newspaper editorials, or newspaper commentator job is in itself very similar to AI commentating on current affairs.
 
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Serb

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My argument is that, contrary to what many people seem to believe, the US still does have a lot of cards to play.

On this particular topic, it has two extremely powerful cards: 1) a virtual monopoly on software platforms for phones and PCs (in the form of IOS, Android, Windows, and even Linux if we go by the recent removal of Russian contributors from Linux's code base), 2) being the sole financial super power of the world, controlling the flow of the vast majority of global capital through its SWIFT system, stock market, and currency.

There's a reason no one outside of China and Russia really dare to do business with a sanctioned entity - the US can completely crush them in retaliation just by either freezing their financial assets (almost always in dollars), or by just banning them from the IOS and Android App. Stores, if they're a software company. The wealth of the so called "global elite" outside of China and Russia is almost entirely in the hands of US banks and trading houses. That's why the US can isolate and contain countries like Iran and Cuba with the stroke of a pen.

In short, the US is not helpless, and that's why a negotiated settlement favorable to the US may, in fact, happen.

That doesn't mean I agree with it. But dismissing it out right is foolish and ignores the advantages the US does have.

But all of this doesn't seem to prevent smaller countries in their neighborhood like Nicaragua and Venezuela from openly defying them for example for some reason. Soon maybe even Djibouti will evict them like Niger and Chad lol. Maybe there is something you are missing man.


 

Overbom

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But all of this doesn't seem to prevent smaller countries in their neighborhood like Nicaragua and Venezuela from openly defying them for example for some reason. Soon maybe even Djibouti will evict them like Niger and Chad lol. Maybe there is something you are missing man.


Well, surprisingly, he has balls of steel. I am a bit too used to the Eurocucks and forgot that some people actually have a backbone
 

FairAndUnbiased

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Huawei was sanctioned in 2018 and its revenue has barely recovered in 2024 compared to 6 years ago. In addition, its market share of every consumer segment is basically negligible outside of China. We can’t pretend US sanctions didn’t cut Huawei down to size - it would have been a juggernaut larger than Samsung (~2x Huawei revenue) if it didn’t happen.

That’s not to say Huawei hasn’t made the best of the situation. But not every company can make a pivot to core research like Huawei. And even if they did there’s no guarantee they’ll be able to reclaim global market share. I’ll remind that the latest wave of globally influential tech. from China has no items from Huawei, and that Huawei has not been able to make much head way with its Harmony OS beyond China.
Huawei is an enterprise company at heart and it's enterprise/infrastructure revenue is still extremely high.

Do you think Apple can survive the retaliatory sanctions from China? They can't move a single screw out if they aren't allowed to by the Chinese government as they're finding out when trying to move tools to India.
 

supercat

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Looks like reactionary elements of intelligencia have woken up to DeepSeek R1 and some of them are not taking it well:
"Ban open source software to China"
He had to be scared sh*tless to forget that DeepSeek is open-source. Wait until he sees the following charts:

How it began and how it's going - remember Western MSM screamed bloody hell when China tried to reform its financial sector?
 
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Biscuits

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I said, if the rumors are true.

Also, Trump / Elon would never announce a back door deal until it's signed & complete,
Xi or Putin wouldn't. Maybe Biden wouldn't either. But this is Trump and Musk we're talking about.
but believing this is totally made up is also foolish; likely it is the US negotiating position.

As far as kill switches go, all I know is that the US completely shut out Huawei smart phones from the global market via sanctions. During its height, Huawei was above Apple in total sales and was just about to over take Samsung.
Huawei posts about as much profit today as before the trade war.

But this whole event was exceptional, because Huawei itself decided after going to war with US that it would switch to government contract focus and cutting edge tech instead.

That was what cost them money temporarily, not US' actions.
Yes, Huawei is making a come back now, but only in China. Its market share outside of China was completely destroyed by the Trump administration,
Nope, they just switched to making electronics components/semiconductors rather than phones. Ren Zhengfei is a visionary, and also now personally hating US because of their attacks on his family's safety. Instead of making a civilian oriented company like Apple, Huawei's gear change is meant to setup them as the no1 supplier for comms equipment and electronics when a war breaks out.
so excuse me for thinking it might be the same threat they're using against Byte Dance today.
Huawei is a very unusual company, the situation is not applicable to other companies who wouldn't make such a large jump for the sake of a future plan.
 

Overbom

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With Trump trying to bully Colombia so much, maybe there is space for China to outmaneuver the US.

Colombia's main exports to the US are oil, coffee, flowers and bananas. China could easily ease the pain to Colombia and thus expose the US as a paper tiger while simultaneously promote the US-threat theory to Latin America and the rest of the world
 

siegecrossbow

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I am now depressed because I realized that damn whale is better at forum shitposting than me:
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Also the realisation that instead of the default serious business like tone, if you ask DeepSeek to write in witty or sarcastic tone it instantly feels much more human like, which in some ways is a disturbing thought.

Yes it is!


In the aftermath of the collapse of the Greater American Empire, Donald Trump, once the self-proclaimed 1st Emperor, found himself a man without a nation. Stripped of power, wealth, and the loyalty of his followers, he was granted clemency by the international community in a controversial bid to rehabilitate his image. With nowhere to go and nothing to lose, Trump turned to the one thing he had always understood: the power of spectacle.

China, the rising superpower of the 21st century, became his unlikely stage. Armed with a newfound humility—or at least a convincing facsimile of it—Trump reinvented himself as a social media influencer. His bizarre charm, unorthodox dance moves, and self-deprecating humor resonated with Chinese audiences in ways no one could have predicted. On platforms like Rednote, Bilibili, and Douyin, Trump’s videos of him awkwardly shuffling to traditional Chinese music, cracking jokes about his failed empire, and engaging in slapstick comedy routines went viral.

Young Chinese influencers, once the darlings of the internet, found themselves overshadowed by the former emperor’s antics. Many, shamed by their inability to compete with Trump’s unrelenting charisma, abandoned their online careers to pursue more “socially productive” roles, contributing to China’s ongoing socialist modernization. Trump, meanwhile, embraced his new life with gusto, becoming a symbol of redemption and reinvention. His catchphrase, “Make Laughs Great Again,” became a cultural phenomenon, plastered on merchandise and memes across the internet.

But Trump’s journey was not without its controversies. Critics accused him of exploiting his past notoriety for clout, while others questioned whether his newfound popularity was a distraction from the darker chapters of his reign. Yet, for many, Trump’s transformation was a testament to the power of second chances. His willingness to poke fun at himself and engage with Chinese culture endeared him to millions, who saw in him a flawed but ultimately human figure.

When Trump passed away in 2032, his death was as unconventional as his life. Found mid-orgasm with a Unitree sexbot’s mouth around his privates, he left the world in a manner befitting his chaotic legacy. Yet, rather than scorn, his death was mourned by billions of people within the People's Republic. In death, he achieved what he could not in the United States.
 

Eventine

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But all of this doesn't seem to prevent smaller countries in their neighborhood like Nicaragua and Venezuela from openly defying them for example for some reason. Soon maybe even Djibouti will evict them like Niger and Chad lol. Maybe there is something you are missing man.
In geopolitics, the US doesn't always get what it wants, but we're not talking about the US's control over every aspect of geopolitics. We're talking very specifically about its control over software platforms and financial services. There, the US does have tremendous leverage, because Silicon Valley really did take over the world outside of China.

In 2024, Android + IOS had 96% of global market share in smart phone OS. Harmony OS had just 4%, virtually all of it within China.

When you are that market dominant, it gives you power. No two ways about it. Same reason why China's dominance in EV, battery technology, and consumer drones is scaring the **** out of the US and leading to constant media attention and political action. The only difference? Nobody outside of China and Russia are raising the alarm about the US's 96% market share in smart phone OS, despite the obvious risk that poses to national security, because they've been so used to the US media telling them what to think.
 
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