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Virtup

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so ByteDance got cucked by the ADL and AIPAC money?.
No, free speech in the US simply doesn't matter to them and they can't bring themselves to care about american rights and freedom. These are not their people after all. All they need from the US is the market and the profits that come with it. There is a non-zero chance this was done with chinese approval BTW.
 
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daifo

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For the past several years, I've been coming to SDF nearly every day to get updates on the competition between China and the United States. Though I never posted, I enjoyed reading everything you guys had to say.

Starting today, I will no longer browse SDF, because China has clearly won.

In every area, from diplomacy to standard of living to technology, China is now clearly ahead of the US. Today's release of DeepSeek-R1, and the central government's corresponding statement of support for further AI development, is the final nail in the coffin. I will occasionally return to check on progress with EUV, but in my opinion the competition is over. Now I can go live my life. Thanks to everybody for posting.

I think the us empire is trying to resurrect. It will look inwards and regional before trying to take the world again. China thinking it won would just be a false sense of security and produce incompetency.
 

pmc

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I think you're just reacting normally to the fact that EU leaders are cowards and sycophants.

But it's important to understand - they did not get there by chance or because that's the sort of people Europeans wanted to lead them.

The US put them there. Through a combination of elite education, networking, funding, and lobbying, the US has fingers on nearly all of the high-standing members of the European Commission and the EU administration. Even the local European leaders, many if not most of them, especially those on the left, were funded and promoted by the US. This goes back to the beginnings of post-World War 2 Europe being essentially rebuilt by the US and the British; much like Japan.
if US alone is controlling them or sole financial power than how come it lost that FIFA bid to tiny Qatar?. Arabs and US are like tag team that kept most of the world afloat post 1945
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when Obama got too close to Erdo during Arab spring. that Tokyo olympics was handed over to Japan. Arabs kicked Europeans from Africa and that refugee crises. The point i am making is US effectiveness comes with its alliance with Arabs but often Arabs not advertize things as they have to maintain that Soft Power image.
 

taxiya

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"US never had a real socialist movement"

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Eugene Debs won 900.000 votes

1912, 1920

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Real is always a relative term, the 900,000 votes is about nothing compared to a social democrat party ruling many European countries. All of them are only the outcome of a REAL socialist movement in their past. We can disagree with the word usage, but what I meant by real is vastly different from Eugene Debs "movement". I meant Germany in the late 1800s to before Nazi took over, Spanish Civil War, French revolution, Paris commune, Russian revolution, China from 1920s and many other countries where the movement meant years of violence and civil war and the looser ended up executed in tens of thousands.

By the time someone joined the congress election as Eugene Debs, one is "left" only by historical connection, itself is NOT in a socialist movement anymore but part of a system one once tried to overthrow.
 
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