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Weird to me that Trump has signalled a willingness to bring TikTok back - wasn't he supposed to be the hawk? I remember a time when liberals were accused of being soft on China. What happened?

Liberals in the US just seem so eager for conflict against everyone. Really weird how this happened. Bring back the hippies!

Temstar said:

You know Trump hasn't sign anything, he's not even president yet.
The fact that TikTok is online now is in fact a direct violation of US law, passed by congress, confirmed 9-0 by supreme court.
That's some crazy shit. Seen as 90 days extension is contingent on negotiation proceeding for a sale, and the president gets to decide if that's happening or not, Trump could just trust me bro 100% guarantee and say anything, seen as him and TT are already getting away with breaking the law.

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This, I think this detail is actually huge, TikTok and American ISPs have basically just collectively declared they consider the will of one man, who isnt even officially in power yet, is above that of Congress and Supreme Court.

For ByteDance they just used Trump to effectly declare they do not recognize US law and their intrepretation overrides Supreme Court, and set the tone for future actions of not just ByteDance but other Chinese companies, while for Trump he just got a taste of supreme power over Congress and the courts and will unlikely to stop using it.

If TT waited just 24 hours to after Trump signed an EO, or just entered office it would be a completely different nature, but they didnt wait, which means TT just appointed itself the Supreme Court

mossen said:

Weird to me that Trump has signalled a willingness to bring TikTok back - wasn't he supposed to be the hawk? I remember a time when liberals were accused of being soft on China. What happened?

Liberals in the US just seem so eager for conflict against everyone. Really weird how this happened. Bring back the hippies!

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In addition to humiliating Biden, appeasing the Gen Z, perhaps Trump wants to hold TT alive as a bargaining chip, too. A TT dead in the water would be of no value in negotiations.

iewgnem said:

This, I think this detail is actually huge, TikTok and American ISPs have basically just collectively declared they consider the will of one man, who isnt even officially in power yet, is above that of Congress and Supreme Court.

For ByteDance they just used Trump to effectly declare they do not recognize US law and their intrepretation overrides Supreme Court, and set the tone for future actions of not just ByteDance but other Chinese companies, while for Trump he just got a taste of supreme power over Congress and the courts and will unlikely to stop using it.

If TT waited just 24 hours to after Trump signed an EO, or just entered office it would be a completely different nature, but they didnt wait, which means TT just appointed itself the Supreme Court

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Biggest loser in all this are the Supreme Court, the Congress, Biden admin, Jews, and Jia Hinds....

TikTok essentially showed the world that US no longer has even the semblance of rule of law anymore

In that regard, it really was a national suckerity threat LLMao

mossen said:

Weird to me that Trump has signalled a willingness to bring TikTok back - wasn't he supposed to be the hawk? I remember a time when liberals were accused of being soft on China. What happened?

Liberals in the US just seem so eager for conflict against everyone. Really weird how this happened. Bring back the hippies!

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Democrats and neocons got played hard by Trump on this.

No wonder they seethe so much about him. He knows how they think.

SanWenYu said:

In addition to humiliating Biden, appeasing the Gen Z, perhaps Trump wants to hold TT alive as a bargaining chip, too. A TT dead in the water would be of no value in negotiations.

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TT is much bigger than the American corner and China wins with or without US, not understanding that is how Americans got themselves into this humiliating position

bread and circuses everyone… don’t take away the circuses

Americans going back to Tiktok and seeing the comments

4Runner said:

My kids told me once that those few Gen Zs who are not registered in TT are probably not going to do any social media thing anyway. So guess who is losing in this drama?? And dare DNC think that about half of Gen Z are going to vote for GOP starting from the next mid-term election??

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Df you guys have kids???? How old is SDF on average? 45?

About the only "gotcha" that the XHS haters are pulling right now is that Americans are telling Chinese people their salaries. It's hardly the own Americans think it is and in fact, could just end up deepening the soft power that XHS is promoting.

1. The most obvious fact is that XHS's users are mostly young urbanites. It is very likely a good chunk of them already have friends or friends of friends who studied abroad in the West and found employment in American FAANG companies afterwards. America's higher salaries is not some kind of great epiphany to them.
2. Out of all the supposed benefits of living in the land of free, even the anti-China propagandists are struggling to come up with other things besides that and "freedom of speech."
3. Over the past few days since the XHS phenomanon began what have we learned? That consumer goods in China are cheaper, China's infrastructure and public transportation is lightyears ahead of America's, many Chinese millenials are home owners and rent is cheaper.

So when all's said and done, Americans have higher salaries and....? Why are so many struggling to budget groceries and gas from their paychecks? Why are 33% of American millenials, in a culture that traditionally frowned on multigenerational households, still living with their parents? With all the income tax the government is extracting from high American salaries, why are the roads falling apart? Why is the piss, crime, and rat infested New York subway the crown jewel of American public transportation? With the 6 figure salaries afforded to American police officers thanks to American taxpayer money, why aren't they doing their jobs to keep a lid on crime?

Nothing's changed. Since this whole saga began, one group's reaction to seeing the other side's lifestyles has been mirroring that of the Vikings looking up at the Hagia Sophia for the first time and it is not the Chinese, even with the added factor of American salaries.