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Serb

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Been thinking lately about the USSR.

On the big stage it did good showing it's physical prowess in stuff like Olympic boxing/wrestling/weightlifting and in mental stuff like chess. Had many world champions in both areas. It even went to space first.

In the end what good did it do? USA got beaten in these areas but it survived while the USSR is a thing of the past. The USSR didn't even get to die gloriously but instead anticlimactically as it basically shot itself in the head. Despite all these great demonstrations of power, it didn't have a huge impact to really dethrone USA.

Some compare China to the USSR but now it might not be the case. What China is doing actually hurts USA by taking away stuff like manufacturing and key technologies. In many areas it is still USA finding the stuff first yet failing to make use of it's potential. OpenAI looked hot when it came out but we can see corporate greed from guys like Microsoft is killing it's potential. China on the other hand figures out how to use the AI to achieve it's potential.

So if anything, it's USA that's in the shoes of the USSR now. More focus on image and looking strong instead of practicql stuff.


In my opinion, the US is not just the new USSR, we're living through its final years now too. Trump, in many ways, mirrors Gorbachev, a leader who tried to "save" the system through bold reforms like "glasnost" and "perestroika", but only made it worse.

Think about all the sweeping plans and promises Trump put forward. Instead of revitalizing the system, these efforts will inadvertently speed up its decline.

Why? Because, as in the USSR then, the foundation was too decayed, and the attempts to fix it only revealed the cracks for everyone to see and increased chaos and divisions. It was like shouting that the emperor had no clothes, but louder than ever before.

Also, other similarities are that Gorbachev, faced with the crumbling Soviet Union, also had to shift focus inward, prioritizing the USSR over its satellite states.

Similarly, the US under Trump began to retreat from its global commitments, also leaving allies wondering if they could even trust the Americans any more.

Gorbachev (also narcissist and demagogue) gave people a glimpse of what could’ve been better, but it just made them realize how bad things really were. Same with Trump—his promises got people hyped for change, but instead, it just revealed how deep the cracks ran.

Even the vibe feels the same. The USSR’s last years were full of confusion, infighting, and everything feeling like it was spiraling. Sound familiar? Between political chaos, culture wars, and an economy that’s all over the place, it’s like we’re watching the same story play out again, just with different faces.

Both leaders faced systems that were already teetering, where every attempt to patch things up just exposed how unsustainable and inefficient the whole structure had become. Donald Trump's nickname in the Kremlin now is the American Gorbachev.
 

SanWenYu

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Here it comes:
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Man their national security is really weak if it can be threatened by all these things.

Their kneejerk reaction would be to ban it, but it doesn't take a genius to realize how that would look not just to their own citizen, but everyone else around the world watching this play out if US bans Red Note while China didn't segregate the userbase. That's textbook late cold war Soviet Union ass covering move.
This cybersecurity expert was either out of touch with the reality or burying his head in sand. The very reason that the TT refugees flocking to XHS is because they do not believe the "data protection and national security" excuse abused by the USG and the lobbyists hired by Meta and Google. The TT refugees knew their data on XHS could end up in the hands of CCP. They just landed in XHS as a political statement for protesting.
 

Temstar

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The US is the ultimate clown show not for only doing the ban of a dancing app, but leaking out the aftermath

There's not going to be "delay and then renegotiate", setting aside the algo is not for sale by law, if you delay in a deal like that it means you've shown your hand and you fold. Any time you try to offer terms for negotiation after a delay at this time Bytedance is just going to go "how about no, what are you going to do ban me?"

If you decide to go all in on a hand you better make sure you have a good feel you got a winning hand. If the other person also goes all in and turns out you have nothing then you lose all of your chips. Or as they say in Chinese 梭哈是一种智慧 and this time ByteDance is going all in.
 

victoon

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The US is the ultimate clown show not for only doing the ban of a dancing app, but leaking out the aftermath

Imagine Biden and the Democrats banning the app and then Trump lifting the ban. It could potentially be a big win for Trump and the Republicans. I wonder if it's the reason the Republican senators blocked the bill for extension. I don't have a lot of respect for US politicians. But I give them credit for being very good at politics.
 

Temstar

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In my opinion, the US is not just the new USSR, we're living through its final years now too. Trump, in many ways, mirrors Gorbachev, a leader who tried to "save" the system through bold reforms like "glasnost" and "perestroika", but only made it worse.

Think about all the sweeping plans and promises Trump put forward. Instead of revitalizing the system, these efforts will inadvertently speed up its decline.

Why? Because, as in the USSR then, the foundation was too decayed, and the attempts to fix it only revealed the cracks for everyone to see and increased chaos and divisions. It was like shouting that the emperor had no clothes, but louder than ever before.

Also, other similarities are that Gorbachev, faced with the crumbling Soviet Union, also had to shift focus inward, prioritizing the USSR over its satellite states.

Similarly, the US under Trump began to retreat from its global commitments, also leaving allies wondering if they could even trust the Americans any more.

Gorbachev (also narcissist and demagogue) gave people a glimpse of what could’ve been better, but it just made them realize how bad things really were. Same with Trump—his promises got people hyped for change, but instead, it just revealed how deep the cracks ran.

Even the vibe feels the same. The USSR’s last years were full of confusion, infighting, and everything feeling like it was spiraling. Sound familiar? Between political chaos, culture wars, and an economy that’s all over the place, it’s like we’re watching the same story play out again, just with different faces.

Both leaders faced systems that were already teetering, where every attempt to patch things up just exposed how unsustainable and inefficient the whole structure had become. Donald Trump's nickname in the Kremlin now is the American Gorbachev.
This event is just too much like Kitchen Debate, or the very shock that PRC got when it first opened up under Deng and saw the material wealth of US. I knew CoL was bad and it lead to the democrat getting wiped out in the election but the stories are even more extreme than I imagined. In particular the thing that Americans seem most astonished about is plentiful fresh food available in China, something that you think shouldn't be hard for US to produce given their geography, yet here we are.

I saw someone make the comment on weibo already, he said "is this what it's like to win the cold war?"
 

Lethe

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This is some weapons-grade copium courtesy of Foreign Policy magazine and CSIS.

TL;DR: China's unveiling of J-36 is a sign of its weakness and decay. Beijing is desperately flailing in the face of resolute American economic power and sagacious leadership and Washington needs only to take care not to win too much.

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There are also reasons to believe China’s new aircraft is meant to be a signal to U.S. President-elect Donald Trump and his administration to counter the threat of tariffs and to substitute military signaling for economic statecraft. The fact is, Beijing is increasingly out of options to counter renewed U.S.
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. Since the U.S. presidential election last November, China has launched one of the world’s largest
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, conducted its largest naval operation in decades, and unveiled a
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platform. As the new Trump foreign-policy team takes office, they should see these measures for what they are: a country bargaining from a position of weakness and likely prone to increased risk-taking and brinkmanship.

With China’s
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and its
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the Trump administration needs to avoid pressing leaders in Beijing further into a frame in which risk-acceptant behavior seems rational. Pushing a desperate actor into a corner is a high-risk gamble.

This article is an interesting exercise in how you can take a bunch of vaguely sensible propositions and nouns and rearrange them into something that is almost, but not entirely unrecognisable: a funhouse mirror version of reality.

The less funny part comes from knowing just how many powerful folk in Washington find this stuff very persuasive indeed.
 

victoon

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I am curious how a sale of the US portion of TT would work. Don't US TT users have a ton of interaction with the rest of the world?

On the other hand, TT is a platform that has allowed the US to export soft power/cultural influence to the rest of the world. Without US users:
  1. There could be a real case for combining TT with Douyin, which would be less restricted by US rules and better for integrating China (cough cough, soft power) with the rest of the non-US world.
  2. Even if TT stays separate, it could become a more attractive platform without worrying about US censorship.
 

daifo

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Imagine Biden and the Democrats banning the app and then Trump lifting the ban. It could potentially be a big win for Trump and the Republicans. I wonder if it's the reason the Republican senators blocked the bill for extension. I don't have a lot of respect for US politicians. But I give them credit for being very good at politics.

Tom Cotton who blocked it is a super China Hawk. He is protected in his rural state with no other competitor for his seat so he doesn't have to bend to the plans of Trump like someone like Rubio. What he did was to make Trumps plan not to block TT even harder.
 

siegecrossbow

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This is some weapons-grade copium courtesy of Foreign Policy magazine and CSIS.

TL;DR: China's unveiling of J-36 is a sign of its weakness and decay. Beijing is desperately flailing in the face of resolute American economic power and sagacious leadership.

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This article is an interesting exercise in how you can take a bunch of vaguely sensible propositions and nouns and rearrange them into something that is almost, but not quite unrecognisable: a funhouse mirror version of reality.

The less funny part comes from knowing just how many powerful folk in Washington find this stuff very persuasive indeed.

Funny. I’d say that banning a twerking app on national security grounds shows weakness and decay.
 
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