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siegecrossbow

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NO.NO.NO-don't even say that-this should be the appetizers-the main course is yet to be served-and even though we Chinese don't normally eat dessert-I WANT something sweet!!!!

If the main course is not Lai Chingde and his pan-Green lackeys planting trees in Inner Mongolia to off set the oxygen they’ve wasted then I ain’t eating.
 

Temstar

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Here it comes:
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Man their national security is really weak if it can be threatened by all these things.

Their kneejerk reaction would be to ban it, but it doesn't take a genius to realize how that would look not just to their own citizen, but everyone else around the world watching this play out if US bans Red Note while China didn't segregate the userbase. That's textbook late cold war Soviet Union ass covering move.
 
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abenomics12345

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I don't buy any of these big claims. Today, the world is very different from the one in which China was able to lead and dominate Asia. What I do know, though, are:
  1. Before the TT ban, the average Chinese knew way more about the US than Americans knew about the PRC.
  2. Chinese have overestimated life in the US, and Americans have underestimated life in the PRC.
  3. The user base of XHS tends to be affluent urban Chinese; the typical US TT user is more likely an average American.
All in all, I think this "second contact" is likely a bigger shock to the Americans (or anyone heavily "influenced" by Western media) than to the Chinese users.

I actually think the original post is correct that this will change China more than it does America - but just not in the way the original post thought it would.

I've written in-depth in the Economics thread about how I assess the primary problem in Chinese economy today to be a lack of confidence. This Kitchen Debate 2.0 has abundantly shown how the average Chinese thoroughly and comprehensively overestimated the average American. That is how you gain confidence ("what you mean we are living about the same if not better than the Average American?!"). So for Chinese people this was a reckoning moment of self realization.

On the other hand, the United Front just gained anywhere from 10-100k hardened/radicalized China-pilled American youth who clearly see the difference in material living standards (Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs) that they were *promised* (America is the best) vs. what they *are experiencing* (I CAN'T AFFORD GROCERIES).

Don't get me wrong, this is the mother of all national security threats for the American Capitalist system. But this is nothing 'new' per se - Luigi happened before XHS happened - this just accelerated the problems in the US.
 

siegecrossbow

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China doesn’t even need to spread Communism to spark a colored revolution in the U.S. All they need to do at this point is tell Americans that they need a government for the people, by the people, as their constitution intended.

Nah fuck that this is lame. Eat your heart out Tom Cotton!

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Randomuser

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Been thinking lately about the USSR.

On the big stage it did good showing it's physical prowess in stuff like Olympic boxing/wrestling/weightlifting and in mental stuff like chess. Had many world champions in both areas. It even went to space first.

In the end what good did it do? USA got beaten in these areas but it survived while the USSR is a thing of the past. The USSR didn't even get to die gloriously but instead anticlimactically as it basically shot itself in the head. Despite all these great demonstrations of power, it didn't have a huge impact to really dethrone USA.

Some compare China to the USSR but now it might not be the case. What China is doing actually hurts USA by taking away stuff like manufacturing and key technologies. In many areas it is still USA finding the stuff first yet failing to make use of it's potential. OpenAI looked hot when it came out but we can see corporate greed from guys like Microsoft is killing it's potential. China on the other hand figures out how to use the AI to achieve it's potential.

So if anything, it's USA that's in the shoes of the USSR now. More focus on image and looking strong instead of practicql stuff.
 

MonkeyEatingEagle

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Lol no. Where were they when shit got real on Jan 6th?
They pussied out. Hahaha. Honestly speaking, that wasn't even a proper revolution in any form whatsoever. But those rednecks are pretty much the largest and spec'd out militia in the world with already ripe ideologies for the picking: MAGA ("new American exceptionalism"), good old white supremacy or religious extremism (Christian flavor). What's only missing is a charismatic leader that would rally and lead them to battle---not to a cliff. Trump and his ilk are none of that.
 
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