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All that matters is who has the power. That's how it works with the US and they get to write the rules. It doesn't matter how much your side is telling the truth. Who are you making the case to? A whole world that wants to suck at the teat of the US. Of course the world naturally gravitates to the US not because it has the most honorable values. It's because they control the economics of the world and everyone else wants money for themselves. That's the honest truth. It's not how the US wants to romanticize it that the world is full sages of infinite wisdom and they all happen to make a judgement against China and not because they're really just kissing ass to the US so they can get money. Some want China to take the high road in dealing with the US. Why? Who's going to recognize China taking the high-road to then be rewarded? Your God? Your dead ancestors? No, it's the US because they have all the power. The Chinese are ritualistic people. They think if they do this or that, they're suppose to get this. Yes, I'm going to bring up the ISS again... China thinks if it can do the basics of space exploration, the US is suppose to allow China as a member of the international space station. Where in the universal rulebook says that is how it's suppose to work? The US is in charge and the only way China is getting onto the ISS is essentially signing its soul away to the devil and it'll have nothing to do with space. If China isn't going to sign its soul away, don't ever think China will be allowed on the ISS. The only way for China is accumulating power for itself which is why the West is deathly afraid of China going that route. China's modern rise as a country is the most peaceful in the history of the world meaning the only way the US can stop it is to show their evil self-serving true motives to the world. So China should stop wasting time thinking it will ever gain acceptance from the West. Even the US doesn't recognize that in a way China acknowledges its authority. They don't even put out bait luring China to think there's hope. No good deed goes unpunished and China will get tired eventually rejecting the West in its entirety and they will have zero power over China. And that's the way I want it.

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All that matters is who has the power. That's how it works with the US and they get to write the rules. It doesn't matter how much your side is telling the truth. Who are you making the case to? A whole world that wants to suck at the teat of the US. Of course the world naturally gravitates to the US not because it has the most honorable values. It's because they control the economics of the world and everyone else wants money for themselves. That's the honest truth. It's not how the US wants to romanticize it that the world is full sages of infinite wisdom and they all happen to make a judgement against China and not because they're really just kissing ass to the US so they can get money. Some want China to take the high road in dealing with the US. Why? Who's going to recognize China taking the high-road to then be rewarded? Your God? Your dead ancestors? No, it's the US because they have all the power. The Chinese are ritualistic people. They think if they do this or that, they're suppose to get this. Yes, I'm going to bring up the ISS again... China thinks if it can do the basics of space exploration, the US is suppose to allow China as a member of the international space station. Where in the universal rulebook says that is how it's suppose to work? The US is in charge and the only way China is getting onto the ISS is essentially signing its soul away to the devil and it'll have nothing to do with space. If China isn't going to sign its soul away, don't ever think China will be allowed on the ISS. The only way for China is accumulating power for itself which is why the West is deathly afraid of China going that route. China's modern rise as a country is the most peaceful in the history of the world meaning the only way the US can stop it is to show their evil self-serving true motives to the world. So China should stop wasting time thinking it will ever gain acceptance from the West. Even the US doesn't recognize that in a way China acknowledges its authority. They don't even put out bait luring China to think there's hope. No good deed goes unpunished and China will get tired eventually rejecting the West in its entirety and they will have zero power over China. And that's the way I want it.

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I agree with some of your post. I don't think it's about just money and power. China is offering favorable loans, investing in infrastructure where no one else will, why don't people love China? China is seen as a a pinata. Whack them and candy pops out. No one thinks of whacking America to get candy. They know it'll end up getting stabbed to death. China is too nice. It was even talked down to by some African diplomat after the West created a hoax about anti Black racism during the coronavirus. In reality, Africans in a Chinese city refused to quarantine and endangered millions of lives. Instead of explaining the case and placing the blame on this group of Africans for endangering the city and the Western media for lying, China immediately gave Africans preferential treatment. This is a cultural issue and it will not be solved when China is the most rich and powerful state because it is a widely viewed as a pinata. They should call it pinata diplomacy.

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Have you seen China's Ambassador to the United States, Cui Tianka, speak? He does the typical Chinese thing which is pointless rambling with a thick accent droning on about "win win cooperation shared future for humanity" nonsense while allowing Western propaganda to go unchallenged.

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The conversation was done in English. Let's see how the American diplomats sound in Chinese. The Win-Win cooperation tripe is all that should be fed to the Americans. There is nothing to be achieved talking to them as it is more a procedural formality than one with any real goal.

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The us China relationship is the most crucial to China and this is the best they came up with.

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Is it crucial? It's locked into an adversarial relationship simply because both countries cannot be the strongest in the world. I don't see any of this as a legitimate effort to make the relationship better because there's no point; it's as I said, a procedural formality.

name said:

Logically, that means many other Chinese diplomat are even more incompetent at communication than him, who is already profoundly bad at communication.

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I'd say the gang in Alaska did much better.

name said:

I'll give you another example of how stupid these people are. In reference to Australia's aggression towards China, some Chinese diplomat said something like "Australia is the gum on our shoe". I saw stupid Chinese people cheering this on and calling him a "manly hero". That comment makes China look like a arrogant condescending jerk. It doesn't make China look like the victim of Australian aggression and atrocity propaganda. China appears guilty of whatever accusations Australia invents.

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That comment was made by Global Times editor, Hu Xijin. He is not a diplomat; he did not make this comment to the Australians in any attempt to solve a problem. He said this for the Chinese domestic audience, who approved of it, because it is true. I stand by the comment and the stupid person here is the one who makes accusations without understanding the context of the orator and his audience.

name said:

This is just tantamount to giving up.

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Giving up becoming a copy of them? China's entire rise and path does not copy the Western system.

name said:

China is different from the West yet we learned their language, eat their foods, mastered their science, learned their classical music, ride in cars, and made our own satellite system but we need to stop at mastering psychological warfare to protect ourselves?

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Of the things you listed, they can be separated into cultural and scientific. The cultural ones, China acknowledges their existence and understands them but does not embrace them as mainstream or warp ourselves to them. The scientific ones, we always master and make our own because it's not "their" science but science is understanding the interaction between man and nature and it is the only way to rule the future. Western psychological warfare, which is basically slander, libel, and as Pompeo says, "lie, cheat, steal" is cultural. It's a type of poison with the side-effect of losing understanding of who your opponent really is, which is a fatal flaw. Although I agree on you on many accounts of examples where China could and perhaps should have been more aggressive and sharp-tongued but chose to save face on an opponent who was trying to throw the whole kitchen sink back at China, I don't know if the impact would have been profound. The Western audience will always label anything that China says as lies and propaganda, and that's if they are allowed to hear it at all, and the audience in China already supports China over the West/US. It's at its base, a stylistic choice of how nasty you want to be.

Interesting to note on the assailants on Asians (I did not check on all attacks). They all seem to be from the Black community and in Democrat controlled areas. Is this a plan to turn Asians against Blacks since China does have considerable influence in Africa. Call it a conspiracy if you like but it's been said a long time ago that whenever both the Black and White communities tried to work together, you suddenly get news of race-based attacks. And now that Asians are becoming more prominent in peoples minds, we get news of these kinds of attacks. In any case, it's always best to be armed (open carry if possible), trained, and more importantly, aware of your surroundings.

Temstar said:

Zheng Ruolin's analysis is that Israel and Jewish diaspora is attempting a reply of their cold war tactic of promoting conflict between the Islamic world and Soviet Union/China (see Chechen Wars). This is in line with the long term interest of Israel as it reduces pressure on them in the Middle East. This long term goal is concurrent with the more short term goal of putting obstacles in the way of China's rise (which the Israelis might not care very much but makes the position a good sell to western countries).

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I don't believe it's about putting obstacles in China's "rise" (the word really should be "return"). It's more about getting China to be Israel's next benefactor. Israel know that a new host is needed to leech off. Unfortunately for Israel, it constantly needs an infusion of money and more importantly, weapons for them to make the Greater Israel project (Yinon) a reality.

name said:

CGTN is a global network employing thousands of people on a giant budget. They release more youtube videos in 2 weeks than The Grayzone has released in 5 years. Of course CGTN will naturally have more subscribers.

it's illogical to point to the subscribers and call it a success. That's like saying, China has a big trade surplus. Therefore, Chinese brands are highly valued. Italy has a much lower trade surplus than China. Therefore, Italian brands are inferior.

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That makes zero sense. Subscribers means receptive viewers. More subscribers means more influence, period. It doesn't matter how they achieved that, it only matters that CGTN's subscribers are growing quite well, contrary to your claims.

Seems to me you've got a predefined position (Chinese media sucks) and trying to pigeonhole any evidence you see to fit that position.

Temstar said:

This video just came out today on this very same topic. Zheng Ruolin's analysis is that Israel and Jewish diaspora is attempting a reply of their cold war tactic of promoting conflict between the Islamic world and Soviet Union/China (see Chechen Wars). This is in line with the long term interest of Israel as it reduces pressure on them in the Middle East. This long term goal is concurrent with the more short term goal of putting obstacles in the way of China's rise (which the Israelis might not care very much but makes the position a good sell to western countries).

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It does make sense, and it would plausibly account for the mysterious death of the Chinese ambassador to Israel on the eve of Pompeo's arrival to Israel. Perhaps a gift to the americans from the Chosen People?

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Hmmm, I was thinking maybe India wanted to smooth this one over but they are actually protesting now. This is an interesting development.

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I thought Indians worshipped the white anglos as God, did they mysteriously develop a spine after getting pwned in the Hindu Kush?

Perhaps this is America's signalling of displeasure at Indians going ahead with the purchase of S-400s; don't know why they're complaining, indians are committed to white anglo hegemony even with white anglo weapons that cost trillions and don't do shit.

name said:

In this area, success is better measured by gains/losses in public opinion and changes in behavior, which are the goals of Western psychological warfare. Ever since Western propagandists unleashed a full assault, China's global image has taken a nose dive. Numerous members on here have pointed to growing anti Chinese sentiment in places with heavy Islamic influence like Malaysia and Indonesia.

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On point, but hate from western Nazi's just make our love and willingness to sacrafice for our country even stronger. Unless the US thinks they can make the world hate china to death, this is not some stupid sprint to a finish line. This is a hundred year struggle in which the US will inevitably decline into irrelevance. 5% of the world's population does not outperform 95% of the world in the long run. Even looking at American GDP/wealth/power influence as a % of global share has been declining since world war II and will continue to decline irrespective of what they try to do with China.

I will say that China needs to be lazer focused on the US, all the other western countries are all tag along. Both Russia/China/Iran/Pakistan/Turkey all know this is true.

H2O said:

It's more about getting China to be Israel's next benefactor. Israel know that a new host is needed to leech off.

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China needs to be very prudent...... when dealing with Isitreal

China has too many hanjian already dont need anymore leeches

Someone said China should do away with all religion and I agree, in the age of AI, we dont need "God"... we need to codify Chinese characteristics, policies, etc into code/logic and use blockchain to enforce it... everything can be reduced to code and become essentially "software defined" with AI guardian enforcement on top...

For example, a great leader like Xi, we can feed AI enough data it can "learn" his intent, from all his previous choices, and can use that personality to guide China into the future... All leaders at very top only make high level decisions anyway, so it should be possible to train AI to match the intent of someone and even when faced with new scenarios they would accurately make the same choice as the human counterpart...

Someone asked how to curb billionaires? simple, with AI you can replace them... once they get to the top, by that point they are only making high level decisions anyway, so replace them with an AI making those decision trees.

This is why US ban China supercomputers it knows whomever dominant AI first will stay on top forever...

What the hell

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What the hell

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Probably Bezos insurance policy to make sure Biden doesnt go after him, deterrence

Why is SCMP that JackMa outfit still allowed to post blatant treasonous articles against China? Guess he hasnt learned his lesson