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Enestori said:
I'm not sure if Iran realizes this, but the USA is in no hurry to be nice to Iran or negotiate. The USA believes Iran is about to collapse, and its goal is regime change. If Iran makes concessions, the USA will simply be more convinced that Iran is collapsing and attack even more.

If one buys a rapist flowers, the rapist will simply get more excited. If one fights, the rapist will be deterred – even if one is physically weaker.

I also believe that Iran is stronger than what Western propaganda depicts. To be frank, I am skeptical about how real the so-called "Axis of Resistance" really is (I judge anything with the word "axis" to be mostly a creation of Western media). I also believe the knowledge of the color revolution strategy to be a strong source of strength for Iran. Finally, I believe that the Iranian government has much more popular support than the West believes. It may not have majority support, but I believe that it has enough to prevent regime change.
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Iran is currently passively taking Western non-lethal beatings because they know they are the ones collapsing, on borrowed time, instead, probably waiting for stronger China to disintegrate them, in a final push, in the next few years.

Iran is a byproduct of the US being forced to act on them always due to Israel, whereas China is something that they really want from a survival perspective. Why would they take the lead in their opinion from their, Iranian, perspective?

They look for themselves first I think. Anyways, If Iran was truly about to collapse, then they would have been 10 times more emotional and erratic and urgent in their actions, something akin to current Israel. So, I'm not worried about Iran.
 
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There were shrapnel holes on the tail and horizontal stabilizer surfaces, so it was an external explosion from a missile. From landing video pitch control was disabled and pilots were trying to land by controlling pitch using engine power which supports horizontal stabilizer disabled.

Loss of control happened over Russia, Ukraine was trying to attack Chechnya with DIY drones at the time so could be air defence friendly fire, or collision with a drone but that's statistically unlikely.
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The plane landed some 500km away from original airport. it was better to return to Baku.
 
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Serb said:
Iran is currently passively taking Western non-lethal beatings because they know they are the ones collapsing, on borrowed time, instead, probably waiting for stronger China to disintegrate them, in a final push, in the next few years.

Iran is a byproduct of the US being forced to act on them always due to Israel, whereas China is something that they really want from a survival perspective. Why would they take the lead in their opinion from their, Iranian, perspective?

They look for themselves first I think. Anyways, If Iran was truly about to collapse, then they would have been 10 times more emotional and erratic and urgent in their actions, something akin to current Israel. So, I'm not worried about Iran.
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Its Arabs that keep it afloat and they have there own reason. Iran cannot deal with this Qatar despite Qatar biggest supporter of Turks and when Saudis put flight restrictions on Qatari airlines this Iran was always willing for some money to provide outlet. Iran is either divided or corrupt and cannot recognize this favor from UAE/Saudis.. if they are not than you Iran will get some thing different. Arabs Royal families are the institutions.


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UAE becomes economic mediator; Qatar does not allow Iranian goods to enter​

UAE, the largest source of goods imports to Iran​

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During the period 1624-1744, the Yaruba dynasty ruled Oman, while from 1744 to the present, the Al Busaidi dynasty governs Oman. Under both rulers, the Baloch played an important role in particular defending Oman against the Portuguese and defeating them in order to make Oman a great and secured country. Baloch awarded with different roles, responsibilities and positions from the rulers of Oman.
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Serb said:
Iran is currently passively taking Western non-lethal beatings because they know they are the ones collapsing, on borrowed time, instead, probably waiting for stronger China to disintegrate them, in a final push, in the next few years.

Iran is a byproduct of the US being forced to act on them always due to Israel, whereas China is something that they really want from a survival perspective. Why would they take the lead in their opinion from their, Iranian, perspective?

They look for themselves first I think. Anyways, If Iran was truly about to collapse, then they would have been 10 times more emotional and erratic and urgent in their actions, something akin to current Israel. So, I'm not worried about Iran.
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The Russians believe in using Iran as cannon fodder and bait to soak up the US, hence they have given them expertise and training in anything but nukes.

Imo China is at this point not going to bother with using Iran in any way. Puzzle pieces are falling into place, they have massive geran orders in place, the Jetank UAV (mass producible A-10/modern B-24) was rapidly inducted, and now 6th gens will arrive as well.

I think even if military budget doesn't show it, China has already changed into preparatory rearmament phase. They went from being 25 years behind with the first 5th gen, to 5 years behind with the second 5th gen, to now x years ahead with the first 6th gen. That indicates a lot of innovative focus on the military within the last 10 years in particular.

Iran can be fairly safe in the knowledge that it can very soon simply hide behind China and cheerlead from the rear.
 
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Before trade war: the Pacific Ocean is big enough for China and America to share.

Post trade war: the world is big enough for China and America to share.
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With the way the USA is right now and its winner takes all attitude, it’s simply impossible to share anything. Might as well take everything from the USA and let them starve out on the street like the rabid dog it’s has now become. Maybe some humility might be learnt as a result because right now, they simply are looking for an excuse to murder anyone that doesn’t bow down and kiss their feet. There entire establishment thinks this way with how they refuse to negotiate with Russia in regards to their security concerns so naturally the USA will only start to understand its current predicament when the civil war finally starts to happen without any involvement from China they want to Use as an excuse.
 
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iewgnem

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Enestori said:
I'm not sure if Iran realizes this, but the USA is in no hurry to be nice to Iran or negotiate. The USA believes Iran is about to collapse, and its goal is regime change. If Iran makes concessions, the USA will simply be more convinced that Iran is collapsing and attack even more.

If one buys a rapist flowers, the rapist will simply get more excited. If one fights, the rapist will be deterred – even if one is physically weaker.

I also believe that Iran is stronger than what Western propaganda depicts. To be frank, I am skeptical about how real the so-called "Axis of Resistance" really is (I judge anything with the word "axis" to be mostly a creation of Western media). I also believe the knowledge of the color revolution strategy to be a strong source of strength for Iran. Finally, I believe that the Iranian government has much more popular support than the West believes. It may not have majority support, but I believe that it has enough to prevent regime change.
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I mean, US also says China is about to collapse and Russia is going to run out of weapons, their problem isn't their propaganda, that's to be expected, their problem is the trend where they have embraced consuming their own propaganda, i.e. consuming your own feces to satiate hunger.

Even internally its the same, just look at how democrats embraced the idea that Karmala can win or woke will sell. I honestly wonder if TikTok algorithm played a role.
 
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