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taxiya

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Thecore said:
She looks has filipino facial features.
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That is well expected. Han (aka Chinese in English) is a mix of various populations of a continent in the past 10000 years.

Filipino and Malays are Austronesian peoples whose major ancestor originated from southeastern coat of mainland China (mainly Fujian) according to recent DNA research in 2020. They lived around 8000 years ago in Fujian, then migrated to Taiwan then spread to pacific islands. So some Fujian Han Chinese including Taiwan's Fujian speakers are mix of northern Han and early Austronesian populations. Only around 30% Han Chinese in Taiwan are from other part of China than Fujian, that means close to 70% of Taiwan's population has Austronesian ancestry to some degrees regardless ethnicity.

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and the 2020 rearch report by Fu Qiaomei of CAS
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而另一大重要发现在于，虽然古南方人群成分在现今东亚大陆人群中所占比例较小，却对其他地区的人群具有广泛的影响。付巧妹团队发现，现今广泛分布于台湾海峡、东南亚和太平洋西南部岛屿的南岛语系人群，与新石器时代的中国南方沿海人群有着非常密切的遗传联系，这表明最早的南岛语系人群起源于中国南方的福建及其毗邻地区，且首次明确将时间追溯到8400年前。这是第一次通过古基因组数据明确，中国8000多年前的古南方大陆人群是南岛语系人群的祖先来源。

Athough acient southeast Asian genetic elements is low in the composition of mordern continental east Asians (Han Chinese)...... the acient DNA data clearly reveals that the modern austronesian speaking peoples ancestor is population in acient southern continental China.
 
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pmc

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You mean, like, everything Russia & Iran used to do before they got hit with sanctions and HAD to stop? Lol. Just take Russia for example:
1) Russia was selling cheap energy to Europe even after NATO pooped in its backyard (Ukraine) and was even willing to continue doing that after the war began.
2) Russian market was absolutely dominated by Western brands, even some Russian brands had to pose as Western ones (e.g. Bork - Russian company which basically sold rebranded Chinese goods but positioned themselves as German, even registering a fake GmbH there, lol) in order to gain success. Even now, there is still a large stream of Western goods coming to the country through China, Kazakhstan, Armenia, etc. and Russians are still willing to eat up the costs & buy this stuff. The situation with domination of foreign brands on Russian market was and still is WAY worse than China.
3) Russia never did anything substantial against Israel either, so what's ur point?

So basically, if these fairly mundane things make China pro-Western, then both Russia and Iran are pro-Western. Contrast that to attitudes of some Russians and Iranians who look down on China because of some innate racism and inferiority complex towards Europe. The latter is more indicative of being pro-Western than simply doing business with them.
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Russia was not selling cheap energy. it was through long term contracts paid by Soviet infrastructure. only thing new was Germany related energy infrastructure. the top brand in Russia in electronics were Asian.
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Samsung named most preferred brand in Russia for 8th straight year​

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5 million used Japanese/Korean vehicles will be sold in one year. this is the scale of the support. they bringing the unique Japanese vehicles from UAE. as they are part of Arabic economic system which most people ignore.
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coolgod

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Overbom said:
Iran lol.
Mossad and CIA licking their lips now
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Iran lifts ban on WhatsApp and Google Play​

Reformist government promises removal of more internet curbs as it seeks to ease restrictions on population
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I read that ZTE helped Iran build its great firewall. Doesn't matter anyways, my disappointment with Iran started after the assassination of Raisi.
 
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AssassinsMace

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Sometime it helps to switch perspectives, there are also a lot of Russians and Iranians who think China's the one who's too pro-western (and they talk about this on their forums), I mean, China does massive trade with US and EU, sells dual-use goods to them including ones used to kill Russians, allow Apple and Tesla to sell in China, and allow western brands to dominate Chinese market for decades, etc. China even does massive amount of business with Israel with Chinese EVs the top seller in the country. Compare that to Russia currently fighthing in Ukraine, or Iran fighting against Israel, China is practically pro-western, only from a Chinese perspective do people appreciate the long term strategy and tactical choices, and not without complaints over the years.

As it stands Iran has just bombed Israel twice this year with practically no consequence, have been giving weapons to Yemen to do the same plus blockade the Red Sea to practically no consequence, all while launching their own satellites on their own rocket and has a per-capta GDP higher than India while under sanctions. Israel meanwhile is still struggling in Gaza to this day, getting attacks on a regular basis by Iranian proxies on their border even after all the assassinations, and its economy is basically now entirely kept alive by US life support. If it was Iranian capital struck regularly by Israeli proxies, Israli hypersonic missiles, and its Iran resorting to assassinating Israeli proxy leaders to little effect, you would not be saying Iran is in a good position.

Iran and China are ultimately on the same side, the fact that they're a sovereign nation with independent policy, as opposed to the vassal relation US has with their "allies", while create challenges vassals don't, also give them more power that vassals can't provide.
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I wouldn’t believe what the West says about Iran. It’s basically the same stuff they’re saying about China’s economy and how Russia is doing in Ukraine. There’s a Western news report saying that Ukraine killed 500 North Koreans. Interesting since early on they said they killed thousand right off the bat.

The fact is the Israeli counter strike was so short it had to because they aborted. Scott Ritter said they had to have at least two waves. The first one was to hit air defenses to clear the way for the strike aircraft to go after their primary targets. Somewhere along the line they aborted because of how short it was overall possibly because Russian type air defenses locked on and the Israeli retreated.

Iran’s more capable missiles impacted on the ground and you saw it the videos released. They weren’t all intercepted. The next strike if Israel escalated would probably targeted the cities. If you know Iran had the capability to use missiles that Israel had a hard time intercepting, you would be thinking twice on the next move.
 
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pmc

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That's why I think China doesn't bother giving so much help to Iran despite some guys thinking they should.

Someone said Iran is like Russia. Both were once empires of the past and are trying so hard to get back their glory. So they are both full of pride.

Iranian people don't exactly have such positive views on China despite the aid given so far. And they still think they are the same as whites and will be accepted to the west club. Iran is so proud of itself then surely it can take care of itself.

China isn't gonna give out free aid for no reason. If it's just gonna give aid so Iran can try harder to join the west out of some racial pride, then it's better for China to use that money on itself.

Even Russia is more humble when dealing with China now. So Iran better start learning some humility coz they are in no position to act arrogant now.
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Iran and Russia are the most dissimilar countries thats why there cooperation is so hard to establish. This religion in practice is extremely difficult and costly to implement thats why so many failed states are part of the Islamic world. Iran may or may not recognize that fact. Iran also lacks the intellect to understand West/Christianity even though it wants to become part of West.
Putin inspiration is Solzhenitsyn who mentioned the failure of Russia's Tsars to “understand the evolution of the world and to define true priorities” a result of some Jewish-Masonic machination. that evolution basically means that Jews are the new Scientific leaders (indirectly admitting the decline of Christianity) Putin i think understood but this Ukraine conflict further reinforces it that pure and clean blood society can only be created from ground up. remember that HIV link from Israel. i know more about this topic but basic point is what worked in previous centuries are not working in 21 century and thats why so many Russian delegations went to Iran to emphasize it and Iran related topic is put in multiple tweets to show what Russia is doing for Arabs.
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TPenglake

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AssassinsMace said:
I wouldn’t believe what the West says about Iran. It’s basically the same stuff they’re saying about China’s economy and how Russia is doing in Ukraine. There’s a Western news report saying that Ukraine killed 500 North Koreans. Interesting since early on they said they killed thousand right off the bat.

The fact is the Israeli counter strike was so short it had to because they aborted. Scott Ritter said they had to have at least two waves. The first one was to hit air defenses to clear the way for the strike aircraft to go after their primary targets. Somewhere along the line they aborted because of how short it was overall possibly because Russian type air defenses locked on and the Israeli retreated.

Iran’s more capable missiles impacted on the ground and you saw it the videos released. They weren’t all intercepted. The next strike if Israel escalated would probably targeted the cities. If you know Iran had the capability to use missiles that Israel had a hard time intercepting, you would be thinking twice on the next move.
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There's the West propaganda and then there's simply observing Iran's performance in the past few years to get past the wishful thinking of them being a competent partner in the so called triple alliance with China and Russia, and acknowledging they're a bunch of buffoons that at this point are more of a liability if they don't stomp on the gas for their nuclear program.

People keep wanting to think Iran actually sent a message with its missile strikes on Israel, well Israel sure as hell didn't think enough damage was done for any message to have been sent, since they have always responded in kind by effortlessly getting past Iranian air defenses and destroying air defense infrastructure as well as hampering their missile production capabilities. Iran getting Israel and America to back off with its conventional missile arsenal is like deterring a bear with a stick. With the loss of Syria and Hezbollah, Iran is no longer a Middle-Eastern power, but seeing as how they're still one of the most important countries for China's geostrategy, one only hopes they acquire nukes soon so they can for once make themselves somewhat useful.
 
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zhangjim

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The American cringe continues

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A funny but not so funny joke.
The series of events in December 2024 proved that Western expansionist actions will not be punished.
So, there is no need for Trump to make those troublesome deals. Instead, military force is a more efficient and low-cost solution. Although the United States is not as powerful as before, at least no one has the ability to stop its territorial expansion yet.

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——In fact, some people are already predicting the fate of the Panamanian president: being arrested by the United States.
 
coolgod

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TPenglake said:
There's the West propaganda and then there's simply observing Iran's performance in the past few years to get past the wishful thinking of them being a competent partner in the so called triple alliance with China and Russia, and acknowledging they're a bunch of buffoons that at this point are more of a liability if they don't stomp on the gas for their nuclear program.

People keep wanting to think Iran actually sent a message with its missile strikes on Israel, well Israel sure as hell didn't think enough damage was done for any message to have been sent, since they have always responded in kind by effortlessly getting past Iranian air defenses and destroying air defense infrastructure as well as hampering their missile production capabilities. Iran getting Israel and America to back off with its conventional missile arsenal is like deterring a bear with a stick. With the loss of Syria and Hezbollah, Iran is no longer a Middle-Eastern power, but seeing as how they're still one of the most important countries for China's geostrategy, one only hopes they acquire nukes soon so they can for once make themselves somewhat useful.
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I don't think China and Russia wants Iran to obtain nuclear weapons yet. Is there a non-nuclear weapons solution for Iran right now?
 
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TPenglake

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coolgod said:
I don't think China and Russia wants Iran to obtain nuclear weapons yet. Is there a non-nuclear weapons solution for Iran right now?
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Theoretically, direct military protection. But of course China still abides by non-interference, and Russia isn't exactly seen as a credible global security partner anymore after losing both Armenia and Syria. Improve the economy, but its been years since China has signed the strategic partnership with Iran and I'm guessing China doesn't really go all out, seeing as how in a place like Iran much of the aid is squandered by corruption.

So I don't really see any solution other than pray for the best or if that's too general and wishful, pray that Iran's further ahead in its nuclear program than the media portrays.
 
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