He was rambling on about China evil, Chinese spies, danger to South Korea etc., during his recent speech. This lunatic has got to go.
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"At least they tried." Funny sentence coming from someone supposedly ranting authoritatively about China's lack of understanding to geopolitical reality. Here's some reality for you Russia and Iran "tried," okay so what? In the end, after 10 years of investing manpower and money, the reality is that Russia is now without any base to project power in the Middle East as well as potentially Africa, Iran's neo-Persian Empire has been reduced to the Houthis and a shaky hold over Iraq, and both powers just have to suck it up. China meanwhile, outside of vague promises they would rebuild Syria after the war which sadly will not come to fruition, has lost very little in terms of money, manpower, or assets. You keep talking of trade, less we forget, Syria only joined onto BRI in 2022. I don't care if "trying" gives Russia and Iran more legitimacy or makes them more credible powers from your perspective. The only thing that matters when the dust settles is, they both made a bet and lost, China withheld its bet and gets to move on with more pessing matters.
Tone down on churning out warshhips, but also spread the PLAN around the world to complicate matters for the US? Now you're just talking nonsense. Take a deep breath and just have some perspective on things.
Its so easy for people like you to talk of how the CIA is this omnipresent agency for whom getting countries to sever economic relations with China is so easy they might as well have their own economic version of a death note. On the internet is easy to fall into hyperbole, so if I may ask in real life if the the reality really was as dire as some claim to be, why hasn't it come to pass? From what I've seen, China has just making more and more economic inroads into Latin America despite being "America's backyard," it already has Africa on lock, Central and South Asia, it recently reached a deal to build HSR in Vietnam.
Maybe the reality of the world, even if its hard for those who think of everything in the context of hammer and nails, is that things have changed from the days of the Cold War. The key battleground is the development of the global south and simply put, China is better placed than anyone to provide that development. The West can play their tricks but so long as they cannot provide an alternative and as long as America takes 20 years to build a single rail line in its own country, China will always be there as the only viable option.
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Out of curiousity I went to check, and you're correct. Brazen anti-Chinese rhetoric. It's encouraging that the opposition is actually calling out Yoon's deranged foreign policy in their impeachment bill
It's really annoying. Like you are seeing NATO unironically ask China to stop the the Ukraine war even though it's not their damn problem and when China comes up with a suggestion, they get mad at it.
Now you get Russia/Iran supporters saying China should save Syria even though Syria refused help from them and don't want to be saved.
They say China is too arrogant and forceful. Maybe China should be more clear on saying "Not my problem" so people don't get the wrong expectation.
Now you get Russia/Iran supporters saying China should save Syria even though Syria refused help from them and don't want to be saved.
They say China is too arrogant and forceful. Maybe China should be more clear on saying "Not my problem" so people don't get the wrong expectation.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
Now what does that say about the U.S. government when even the guys who crucified Christ paid their debts but they weasel out of theirs.
This is why it’s so essential in a China US war, that China must win because the Anglo zionists demonstrate that for them it’s not enough for them to win, as they did against Assad, their propaganda organs will try to destroy any notion of Chinese pride and identity as a people with a “holohoax” of bizarre blood libel.
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
A view that nobody cares about.
They have acted like this for decades and all they have done is speed past rival after rival until only the US is left and it's scared.
Classic example of stupid people seeing nothing. How would China have prevented the defeat of a people who basically wanted to lose and be done with it?
Nothing needs to be regained. It was a muslim territory run by people who kill each other the second Israel starts killing them. Nothing can save them.
Then the US would have a breakdown and accuse China of non-transparancy for hiding its military assets. You can take all your childish emotional outbursts and shove them up yours.
The US isn't laughing. Neither is the EU. You're the only fool who thinks its funny.
Does China has comprehensive military power superior to the US and possibly whatever spills out of the rest of NATO? If not, then how can you possibly advocate using them at this point?
Those were all built after WWII. We watch the fools dance and struggle as we outgrow everyone and make their bases useless and eventually too scared to fight.
Most people regard building a military as doing. And most people consider building islands as doing. But you consider... only war as doing? No, it seems instead that you are a cryer, not a thinker.
Hope yours is over soon. You're on day 1?
1. The dust hasn't even settled. We'll see who rules Syria and what we/Russia can/cannot do.
2. Even if the loss is great, there was nothing that we were in a position to do.
Your overreacting is incalculable and no one cares what you believe.
Yeah, he quit. You can't prop up someone who is already gone.
No one cares about your faith and the plan was never to wait the US out. It was to grow until we were too strong for them to intervene and everything is on schedule. If your plan was to wait, then you're the one who's the watcher and not the doer.
How cheap, like normalizing military flights around the island? Building the biggest and most advanced military in the world? That one's not cheap though...
manqiangrexue
Brigadier
Muslims are an unstable bunch. If we leave, you bitch and moan about us not being doers. If we're there, you complain that they're not loyal people... abd that's somehow on us too. Classic time of the month behavior.
Honestly you're putting China on a pedistal with your expectations. Terrorists and proxys are America's game because America doesn't have the inner power but it does have the post WWII connections. Growing is China's game because we have everything we need at home. Myanmar's relations are already much closer to China than the US. We keep beating up Filipino boats, taking islands and building them while the US just watches; it's not our fault they're too stupid to get it that they're hugging the wrong leg. You expect us to totally smoke the US even at their own game before we're done overtaking them? You know it takes decades, centuries in the old times for a large power to rise above another, right?
Trying what? You give these people anything and they throw it on the ground and run. There were no options there.
You're daydreaming that China's playing that game. We're not. We're in our lab making tech that no one else can contend with, not bleeding out trying to prop up people trying to commit suicide.
"Alternative facts" LOL Haven't heard that in a bit, huh? It's coming back!
What lives? Syrian lives. Not Chinese lives.
You are more easily scared than a mouse. The US has no chance at all of isolating China; the new Syrian government's first priority was declaring the China and Russia that everything we have there is safe. I don't really trust them, but you have clearly missed the global trend of China becoming more and more integral to the world economy.
Hasn't failed so far. What's your strategy? Making friends by couping/invading people? As the non-dominant superpower? Stupid and suicidal.
Oh, I guess then we should see Chinese trade declining, right? Right? Do we see that?
Pakistan being "all over the world?" Muslim countries are not safe; we knew that going in. And even so, we have recently began to fight against the terrorists there. The only crying is you on this forum.
When we have grown more powerful than NATO and are confident that we can not only win but win a decisive, none phyrric WWIII if it were to pass.
1. When they start building a massive and modern military... did it happen yet?
2. Trade and economics is the number one option. The EU/US wishes they could still use trade to boost their global power.
The US sometimes wins at its game of regime change but we always win at our game of becoming stronger. I'd bet on a growing young lion over a king of mice and roaches anyday.
Wowwww that is stupid. All your posts are stupid but this one wins. Wait... I remember someone saying China should stop churning out warships to invest more on the Olympics.... was that you?
What did you mention? Provide weapons to people known for throwing away weapons and running. Other than that, all you mentioned... was bitching...
That doesn't complicate anything for them; it complicates things for us. It overstretches our logistics, overstretches our military and puts them out there for things that do not align with China's national goal, which is to first wrest control of Asia from the US if conflict occurs.
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This is a bullshit story being circulated by Russia and Iran, because what else are they going to say, that they weren't able to do more to hold their positions? Nobody is going to simply admit defeat. I'm supposed to believe that Assad's government asked these two countries for help, but then refused the help once they spent all this money and put their reputations on the line? And then to reward Assad for humiliating them like that, they give him asylum and a Russian citizenship? Non of that adds up.
China lost more than both Russia and Iran in this, because now the US has a major burden off their shoulders and one less thing to worry about. Now they will up the intensity of Syrian resource rape and guess what? All of that money will be spent one ruining China's interests.
China definitely has a duty to provide its allies with the option of securing their information space, because the US will definitely use that to conduct coups and spread anti-China propaganda. Do you see Japan using Weibo for example? They won't even provide an English version of that to try and counter the misinformation, and that is just one example that would cost them literally pocket change.
All this investment you are talking about would have paid for itself and then some. You don't think Iraq and Syria want stable railways and electricity? China is already working on megaprojects in Afghanistan right now as we speak, and these people have next to no wealth. Syria and Iraq are far wealthier and in need of infrastructure,too!
If you think a country as wealthy as China miraculously survive without a powerful military spread out around the world, then you are delusional. They are in direct economic competition with the US, which automatically means the US has China in it's lenses and is right now brainstorming ways to disrupt Chinese global trade with or without the US military's direct involvement. The state of success that China is in right now, is temporary unless China starts backing it up with actual military bases to host them away from home. Look at the lengths the US has gone to with Russia, sanctioning them, banning them from sports, arresting Russian nationals worldwide, sending missiles literally inside Russia, blowing up energy infrastructure. If Russia with it's massive nuclear arsenal failed to deter the US, Do you honestly think the US is afraid of the more forgiving and nuclearly weaker China in that regard? Right now the US will look to invest heavily in infrastructure outside of China, and that may take a very long time, but it is happening whether you like it or not, and when that happens, then the US is free to sanction and isolate and disrupt Chinese people's lives all it wants, unless China starts spreading it's wings.
China is not some irrelevant country. It is a superpower, and superpower, which means it is in this game not by choice, but by its wealth, power and influence. You cannot win a game by not participating in it, which is exactly what China is doing right now.
Well, since you don't care about my views, save your time and don't engage with me in personal attacks and disgusting racism.
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