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iewgnem

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Why should China get in to make a "peace" that Russia does not like? Whose "peace" is it then? Certainly American's "peace". Can you imagine a "peace" that China dislike imposed on China by someone? We Chinese have sayings "将心比心" and "己所不欲勿施于人", we share feelings of others, we don't do things to tothers that we don't want to be done on us. What you suggested is exactly what the US has been doing all the time and it is exactly why China and the rest of the world are trying to overthrow and defeat USA. Don't suggest China to be USA 2.0. 手段(cunning tactics) only gives you short term gain, but may lead to long term harm, 理想原则(idea and principle) is the only way making one success.


Win-win (proposed by China) has been miss-used by many. Win-win is ONLY towards whom agrees to the principle. To anyone who pursued zero-sum, we Chinese also have our zero-sum in our vocabulary "你死我活". Like Chairman Mao said "痛打落水狗", "宜将剩勇追穷寇,不可沽名学霸王“.

NATO and USA had its moment of pushing eastwards, they had their warning. It is not up to them when and where the pushback would stop. And China isn't going to pay the cost of the west by upsetting Russia.
Ok, noted, here's a revised better solution: Russia provide security guarantee in Ukraine, China setup bases in NATO countries and help them defend against Russia, NATO countries then disband their military to focus on cost of living crisis. Everyone wins.
 

jiajia99

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Ok, noted, here's a revised better solution: Russia provide security guarantee in Ukraine, China setup bases in NATO countries and help them defend against Russia, NATO countries then disband their military to focus on cost of living crisis. Everyone wins.
Why in Gods name does China want to do any heavy lifting for those ungrateful punkasses. Let NATO continue to suffer the stupidity curse until a civil war happens so they can learn the hard way that their stupid Russophobia doesn’t work in The coming days. You cannot teach stupid to be smart via being nice, sometimes the fool needs to be given a DDT to the head for them to learn that touching fire is supposed to hurt, not pretend that a house burning down is ok like it seems to be with Ukraine where Brussels has yet to be hit for its open support because Russia isn’t crazy enough to do so. They sanction China because Uncle Sam says so, they starve in the street as a result, fair deal?
 

iewgnem

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eastern Europe is firmly in the pocket of the US. if the US tells them jump they say how high. the only exception to that is Hungary. and even Orban who keeps talking about Soros has shown himself to be a staunch Zionist all just to placate the US because he knows that America is Israel.



who is that everyone? the Arab states such as Jordan, the Gulf states and Egypt are ruled by puppets of the US. if the people of these countries hate Israel then that is meaningless. the only weapon the people of these countries have are their bellies that is why the only thing they are doing is not eating KFC or Mcdonalds.

the UAE, Jordan & Egypt still refuse to severe relations with Israel and even with all that Sisi for example still has almost unanymous popularity within Egypt.

the African countries are irrelevant in the middle east. Europe with all the occasional talk against Israel from countries like Ireland is still under the thumb of America and America is Israel.

America is with Israel and India & Japan are with Israel & China is neutral. Israel is not as isolated as some people make it out to be.

you probably don't follow Arab media but the Arab media which is funded mainly by the KSA is dancing on the graves of Hamas fighters everyday and trying to blame Hamas and the Palestinians for everything bad happening in the middle east. so regardless of what the KSA government says when they pretend to support Palestine the Saudi state controled media has been trying it's best to demonize Hamas to condition the Saudi people to accept the eventual normalization with Israel once the Palestinians are defeated.



we already have HTS's answer to that.
even when Israel was bombing Syria and taking territory. Julani the leader of HTS in one of his most recent speeches after taking Damascus declared only Iran to be his enemy and didn't even mention Israel.



Turkey played Putin for a sucker and destroyed Russian efforts in Syria. Russia took 9 years to prevent the wahabis from ruling Damascus and at the end Erdogan fooled Putin with the Astana agreements and destroyed Putin's position in the middle east. and now the Qatar Turkey gas pipeline to Europe will become a reality which will help Europe become less dependant on Russia for gas and thus put more economic pressure on Russia.. how is that for "joining BRICS".


it's a bit too early to try to predict the fate of the Russian bases in Syria. we will have to wait and see. so saying they are "likely" to keep it is being quite prematurely optimistic.
at first HTS said they will not seek revenge against ex Syrian soldiers and politicians. but Julani has now said something quite contradictory. he said they will only spare those who have "no blood on their hands" but will "bring those who commited crimes against the Syrian people to justice including those who are now outside Syria and we will demand the countries hosting them to extradite them to us".



Ukraine has been losing it's statehood to Russia for like 3 years now. let's hope they will finaly actually lose it to Russia soon rather than continue "losing" it for another 3 years. because Russia's preoccupation with the Ukraine quagmire is distracting it from other hotspots which is likely what caused them to lose Syria.



Europe is a pro US institution. it's policy doesn't depend on the change of few politicians or governments.
there are no widespread sanctions on China only some tarriff increases. the west probably realizes China's economy is too capable for it to be sanctioned like that of Russia so they only target select Chinese companies like Huawei.



you talk about the SDF as if the SDF are the ones who drove into Damascus and now Trump is about to abandon them and if he does this would somehow be a win for Russia... the mission of the SDF was to prevent Syria from accessing the oil to put economic pressure on Syria.

now that Russia's ally in Syria is gone the US has no more use for these SDF people. whether the US choses to abandon them to placate Turkey or perhaps give them some autonomy is irrelevant. what matters to the US is that the 9 year Russian effort in Syria has been murdered.
No need to write an essay, let me sum up your arguments:

- Eastern European voters don't matter, if they vote against NATO just cancel election, no big deal.
- What ME people want don't matter, their rulers didn't go to war against Israel, some even have relations, so Israel is safe
- Julani didn't say anything about Israel, so those in his group who want to go after Israel don't matter.
- Julani will only break his deal with Russia, and will honor his deal with Isarel against his people's wishes.
- Turkey is bad, they can't be trusted, unless when it comes to their loyalty to NATO.
- Ukraine can survive another 3 years without a male population, only Z need to be alive
- Europe can only sanction themselves, China and Russia can't sanction them so their problems are unexplained.
- Russian effort in Syria is wasted so US can abandon their 9 year effort in Syria propping up SDF, got it.

Did I cover everything?

Here's another ground fact for you to ponder: for the first time in history, ISIS and Al-Qaeda have a direct land border with Israel. So, how confident are you in Israel's alliance with Al-Qaeda?
 

obj 705A

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you know while it is unlikely that Putin will have the courage to do it. but if he has the courage he can absolutely reverse what happened in Syria.

HTS has around probably 80k militants. if Russia pulls out say 50k soldiers from Ukraine and Russia & sends them to that base under the guise of "securing the base" while at the same time sweet talking Erdogan about building and accepting a new future in Syria following the vision of Turkey they could use those 50k soldiers to launch an attack and secure the province of Tartous.

if Erdogan shows disrespect by fooling Putin into believing he wants piece just to deliver a sudden blow then Putin should do the same.

Tartous borders Lebanon so once Tartous is secured Hezbolah could send in few dozens of thousands of their own to Tartous and start a counter offensive from there.

Iraqi militias were absolutely willing to send in dozens of thousands of their own to Syria. the issue was that the Syrian military withdrew so fast that the Iraqi militias had no time to prepare for mobilization towards Syria.

here in Iraq nowadays from the speaches of militia leaders it seems they are absolutely willing to counterattack but obviously they can't do it if Russia doesn't spear head the effort because if Hezbolah and the Iraqi militias go it alone without Russia then Israel and maybe even the US will just start bombing them.

once Russia + Hezbolah + Iraqi militias secure the coastoal provinces (Latakia & Tartous) they can start recruiting soldiers from the minorities especially the Alawites who live mainly on the coast to increase their numbers and go further to the other provinces.

there are also thousands of Syrian soldiers who escaped from the HTS to Iraq along with their equipment. at some point these can be sent back in Syria when Russia secures a bit of territory. the rest of the SAA soldiers who remained in Syria simply put on their Pajamas trying to blend in with the civilian population to avoid being purged by HTS. once the Rus led alliance advances they can recruite back some of these soldiers with new leaderships obviously because the former leaderships were clearly bought off by the CIA.

Putin needs to be aggressive. Putin needs to be disrespectful of Erdogan's interests in Syria. if some one shows you disrespect then show him disrespect too.

militarily the situation is still reversable. there is no way the HTS was able to build fortifications along the vast Syrian territory that they took within few days. so from a purely military point of view the HTS is now overstretched. Russia has to act they can still regain their position in the middle east. if they don't then the fall of Syria will cause a domino effect first in Lebanon & then possibly even in Iran.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Dude, why don't you enlighten us how this latest events happening in Syria even with the alleged atrocities committed by the now assigned "moderate reformers" by the usual western powers, not to mention the aiding and abetted by the Middle-east champions of Kurdish rights, Turkiye.

I wouldn't have no issue with your take on this matter if you stayed away from the b.s. lemmings you have been exclaiming regarding the supposed virtues and benevolence of these new "liberators" if that were actually true.

I do take an issue whenever a certain group (regardless of country) make their case using "human rights" and freedom as their supposed raison d'être. When in reality, those folks just want to establish their Islamic caliphate style governance in the now non-existent country.

It's no wonder why Israel is determined to carve out the former sovereign country to ensure its own national security needs and objectives despite the usual cries from the lemmings in that war torn region.

Don't even go with the "Syrian People" are now free from the Assad butcher when the butchering itself is now happening albeit against the people that your ilk is not supportive of.
And one last thing: Quit sending me P.M. like a stalker. You were literally spamming the Syrian thread incessantly with your pro-Turkiye angle and now you're reduced to emoji replies? You're still reeling from your "Victory high" or something?

Oh and @sequ if you noticed I have not spammed the mods to complain about you or anybody here whose opinions I find abhorrent or disagree with. Unlike you, who can't wait to cry to Mommy mods about the "fair treatment" like you did for your fellow narcissistic buddy a.k.a. SinoSoldier a.k.a. Jai Hind larping as Taiwanese.
 

jiajia99

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And one last thing: Quit sending me P.M. like a stalker. You were literally spamming the Syrian thread incessantly with your pro-Turkiye angle and now you're reduced to emoji replies? You're still reeling from your "Victory high" or something? Lol
Well, those who gloat like that will eventually be proven wrong sooner or later. Many people assume that Israel and Turkey are the big winners in all this but we should wait for a few months to see if this is truly the case. Anything can happen and Israel managed to win for now via underhanded means but it seems that given Netanyahu’s determination to remain in power, I doubt he really thought ahead in regards to the consequences of his actions. It’s been a trend nowadays for everything that the west does will eventually backfire, what’s going to change that trend now. All I see is the media never learning the lesson it should and stop making these quick judgments that is almost certain to be proven wrong shortly after
 

iewgnem

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you know while it is unlikely that Putin will have the courage to do it. but if he has the courage he can absolutely reverse what happened in Syria.

HTS has around probably 80k militants. if Russia pulls out say 50k soldiers from Ukraine and Russia & sends them to that base under the guise of "securing the base" while at the same time sweet talking Erdogan about building and accepting a new future in Syria following the vision of Turkey they could use those 50k soldiers to launch an attack and secure the province of Tartous.

if Erdogan shows disrespect by fooling Putin into believing he wants piece just to deliver a sudden blow then Putin should do the same.

Tartous borders Lebanon so once Tartous is secured Hezbolah could send in few dozens of thousands of their own to Tartous and start a counter offensive from there.

Iraqi militias were absolutely willing to send in dozens of thousands of their own to Syria. the issue was that the Syrian military withdrew so fast that the Iraqi militias had no time to prepare for mobilization towards Syria.

here in Iraq nowadays from the speaches of militia leaders it seems they are absolutely willing to counterattack but obviously they can't do it if Russia doesn't spear head the effort because if Hezbolah and the Iraqi militias go it alone without Russia then Israel and maybe even the US will just start bombing them.

once Russia + Hezbolah + Iraqi militias secure the coastoal provinces (Latakia & Tartous) they can start recruiting soldiers from the minorities especially the Alawites who live mainly on the coast to increase their numbers and go further to the other provinces.

there are also thousands of Syrian soldiers who escaped from the HTS to Iraq along with their equipment. at some point these can be sent back in Syria when Russia secures a bit of territory. the rest of the SAA soldiers who remained in Syria simply put on their Pajamas trying to blend in with the civilian population to avoid being purged by HTS. once the Rus led alliance advances they can recruite back some of these soldiers with new leaderships obviously because the former leaderships were clearly bought off by the CIA.

Putin needs to be aggressive. Putin needs to be disrespectful of Erdogan's interests in Syria. if some one shows you disrespect then show him disrespect too.

militarily the situation is still reversable. there is no way the HTS was able to build fortifications along the vast Syrian territory that they took within few days. so from a purely military point of view the HTS is now overstretched. Russia has to act they can still regain their position in the middle east. if they don't then the fall of Syria will cause a domino effect first in Lebanon & then possibly even in Iran.
Let's see what they do with SDF and Israel first as both are occupying the country they claim to be the ruler of.
If their leadership do nothing, then let's see how long before their own ranks get upset.
Some people seem to hold the belief that Al-Qaeda are die-hard Zionists and will betray everyone except Israel.
Iran normalized relations with all Sunni countries in the region, their enemy is Israel, its much more in their interest to help Sunnis against Israel (they already do with Hamas) than help Israel fight Sunnis.
 

GulfLander

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obj 705A

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Let's see what they do with SDF and Israel first as both are occupying the country they claim to be the ruler of.
If their leadership do nothing, then let's see how long before their own ranks get upset.
Some people seem to hold the belief that Al-Qaeda are die-hard Zionists and will betray everyone except Israel.
Iran normalized relations with all Sunni countries in the region, their enemy is Israel, its much more in their interest to help Sunnis against Israel (they already do with Hamas) than help Israel fight Sunnis.
waiting is far too costly. Russia either decides to do it in the near future or never. the window of opportunity to act militarily is not infinite.

we don't need to speculate on the position of the HTS regarding Iran because Julani keeps on declaring Iran to be the enemy in all his speaches since he took control. also the Iranians and their allies on one hand and the HTS on the other hand have been killing each other for the past decade. saying that we have to wait to see whether the HTS is an enemy of Iran or not is like saying that.. Russia has to wait in Ukraine to check whether Zelenksy is an enemy of Russia or not.

and regarding Israel the HTS already declared they have no intention of fighting Israel.

also what do you mean by saying "help the Sunnis against Israel?" you make it sound like the Sunnis are just one united entity. every country and every group has it's own interests. you can crush the HTS and still have great relations with countries like Egypt.

Russia spent a decade fighting the terrorists in Syria. they can still reverse it since the HTS is overstretched and had no time to build fortifications.

also hypotheticaly let us say the HTS actually betrays their CIA handlers and actually fights Israel.. well who gives a fk about fighting Israel? Russia's priority has always been to save their ally that is Syria from having the black flag of terror raised on Damascus. Russia's mission was never to "fight" Israel.

and in any case restoring Russian control of Syria would be much more beneficial to Hezbolah (and thus to Palestine) than having the NATO mercenary army control Syria.
 
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