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Holy moly. Before the self-coup attempt, apparently Yoon was crazy enough to actually attempt to provoke a conflict if not outright war with North Korea in order to cement his position and power though martial law dictatorship, while also staging an assassination attempt against opposition leader Lee and his cohorts by South Korean elite soldiers dressed in North Korean fatigues.
You know you're the one who's insane when the so-called "Rocket Man" in Pyongyang is more cool-headed than you.
So much for the "shining beacon of Western democracy in the sea of authoritarianism in Asia" that those DPP Wanwanese frogs are simping for.
(Also, Steel Rain (2017) and Steel Rain: The Summit (2020) are meant to be movies, not South Korean-counterpart documentaries, lol)
You know you're the one who's insane when the so-called "Rocket Man" in Pyongyang is more cool-headed than you.
So much for the "shining beacon of Western democracy in the sea of authoritarianism in Asia" that those DPP Wanwanese frogs are simping for.
(Also, Steel Rain (2017) and Steel Rain: The Summit (2020) are meant to be movies, not South Korean-counterpart documentaries, lol)
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Hear me out, Russia might not like this, but China has to do it to achieve peace:
Instead of Ukrainian or Russian military in control of western Ukraine, troops from the neutral country of China control it instead, China can help NATO stop any westward Russian expansion and for Russia any eastward NATO expansion, win win
I think some type of security guarantee from China to Russia might be part of a peace deal, whether simply selling Russia whatever weapons it feels it needs to keep NATO at bay (most likely) or going as far some sort of PLA deployment to the region (quite unlikely), with various measures in between.
Russians are a prideful bunch even though their national comprehensive powers have waned considerably. I don't see how the Russians even under Putin who will accede to their new reality nor do I think that the current Chinese leadership would even dare to offer such a plan.
A plan like this would invoke the yellow peril scare into the consciousness of the Europeans (regardless of their political leanings) that for the first time in their lifetime, another ASIAN HORDE have managed to ashore within the hallowed grounds of what they consider their "GARDEN OF EDEN."
Just look at how the Euro fools acted hysterically at the thought and misinformation that North Korean soldiers are in Kursk, Russia. The level of anti-Asian commentaries were more than racist, the intellectuals played and preyed on the fears, insecurity from their population.
Europeans are the ones supposed to do the colonizing, not the ones to be colonized, let alone be patrolled by the hated political ideology of commies and then by the Chinese!! The horror!! LOL
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Such an obvious trap. Do they really think that lowly of China's leadership's geopolitical acumen?
China should counter by asking the US to help end the madness in Gaza! And if they refuse, blame them more for failing. Then we see what the US will say.
manqiangrexue
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Dayum!! China just smacked the US so hard they woke up in the Cultural Revolution!
Why should China get in to make a "peace" that Russia does not like? Whose "peace" is it then? Certainly American's "peace". Can you imagine a "peace" that China dislike imposed on China by someone? We Chinese have sayings "将心比心" and "己所不欲勿施于人", we share feelings of others, we don't do things to tothers that we don't want to be done on us. What you suggested is exactly what the US has been doing all the time and it is exactly why China and the rest of the world are trying to overthrow and defeat USA. Don't suggest China to be USA 2.0. 手段(cunning tactics) only gives you short term gain, but may lead to long term harm, 理想原则(idea and principle) is the only way making one success.
Win-win (proposed by China) has been miss-used by many. Win-win is ONLY towards whom agrees to the principle. To anyone who pursued zero-sum, we Chinese also have our zero-sum in our vocabulary "你死我活". Like Chairman Mao said "痛打落水狗", "宜将剩勇追穷寇，不可沽名学霸王“.
NATO and USA had its moment of pushing eastwards, they had their warning. It is not up to them when and where the pushback would stop. And China isn't going to pay the cost of the west by upsetting Russia.
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Going by the morale shown by South Korean soldiers and their, ahem, exceptional command capabilities, it was very lucky for them that North Korea only shot down their drones.