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mossen

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India's strategy is simply to piggy back to the U.S. maintenance of its hegemony in the ASIA-PACIFIC while India become it's regional sheriff and be allowed to carve out its own sphere of influence.
It makes sense if you accept that India is a fundamentally weak country, despite its size. The main question in New Delhi is which hegemon it becomes dependent upon: the US or China. Given the close commercial and especially people-to-people links with the West, many Indian elites prefer to be a subcontractor to the US.

I'm not annoyed by this strategy. What annoys me is when Indians pretend they are more powerful than they actually are. Or that their geopolitical stances are not taken because of their relative weakness. When China was rising, you didn't see this chest-thumping. It was only once China grew to a certain size - and began to attract America's attention in a negative way - that China began to take up more space.

What we see here is Indian chest-thumping but expecting America to do its bidding. New Delhi will quickly find out they will be serving DC and not the other way 'round. Ask the Indians how much the US cared for India's opinions when they couped Bangladesh's previous pro-Indian ruler out of office.
 

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What we see here is Indian chest-thumping but expecting America to do its bidding. New Delhi will quickly find out they will be serving DC and not the other way 'round. Ask the Indians how much the US cared for India's opinions when they couped Bangladesh's previous pro-Indian ruler out of office.
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Hindu Supremacy and the Multiracial U.S. Far Right​

In July 2024, hundreds of influential far-right leaders gathered to network at the “National Conservatism” conference, or “NatCon,” in Washington, D.C. While the event was headlined by prominent White supremacists and Christian nationalists such as Stephen Miller and Jack Posobiec, it wasn’t an all-White affair. NatCon4 featured several Indian American speakers,
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including Saurabh Sharma, the then-Executive Director of the Edmund Burke Foundation, which organized the event, and Vivek Ramaswamy, the former candidate for the 2024 Republican nomination.
Two leaders of India’s Hindu Right were also invited to speak at this year’s NatCon: Ram Madhav, a member of the National Executive of the Rashatriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the all-male paramilitary group that serves as the Hindu supremacist movement’s fountainhead,
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and Swapan Dasgupta, of the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), one of the RSS’s many subsidiary organizations and India’s ruling party for the past decade. Now in leadership positions at the affiliated India Foundation, their presence at the event was strategic. Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s regime has sought to emphasize India’s emergence as a world power, and in recent years, Hindu supremacists have staked a claim to leadership of the global Far Right.
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A few months prior to NatCon, Madhav authored an article with precisely this message, writing that “India should steer the global conservative movement.”
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In his speech at NatCon, he exclaimed that he and Dasgupta “came here to tell you about the success story of conservatism in India—the defeat of the left-liberal-Marxist-radical Islamist cabal in India.”

India is making inroads in taking over the US establishment. For example, Trump's pick for the next Director of National Intelligence is Tulsi Gabbard (she's Hindu, has strong Indian backers) and the next FBI director is Kash Patel. Let's not forget Vance's wife Usha and DOGE co director Vivek Ramaswamy.
 

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Hindu Supremacy and the Multiracial U.S. Far Right​





India is making inroads in taking over the US establishment. For example, Trump's pick for the next Director of National Intelligence is Tulsi Gabbard (she's Hindu, has strong Indian backers) and the next FBI director is Kash Patel. Let's not forget Vance's wife Usha and DOGE co director Vivek Ramaswamy.
Good. They can fuck the whole country up like Intel. Make it so bad when Americans get a call from the IRS asking for money in an Indian accent, they don't know if it's a scam or legit.
 
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Index

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It makes sense if you accept that India is a fundamentally weak country, despite its size. The main question in New Delhi is which hegemon it becomes dependent upon: the US or China. Given the close commercial and especially people-to-people links with the West, many Indian elites prefer to be a subcontractor to the US.

I'm not annoyed by this strategy. What annoys me is when Indians pretend they are more powerful than they actually are. Or that their geopolitical stances are not taken because of their relative weakness. When China was rising, you didn't see this chest-thumping. It was only once China grew to a certain size - and began to attract America's attention in a negative way - that China began to take up more space.

What we see here is Indian chest-thumping but expecting America to do its bidding. New Delhi will quickly find out they will be serving DC and not the other way 'round. Ask the Indians how much the US cared for India's opinions when they couped Bangladesh's previous pro-Indian ruler out of office.
China well knows exactly that this is India's strategy, so they're blowing up India's links with the west and exploiting the west's natural hatred of India. India might want to choose US, but China is making that choice unbearable. Then there won't be a choice left for India but to be neutral at the very least.

The charges on Adani are imho the biggest news from the last weeks at least, for the reason that it shows how repeated lawfare and info leaking has succeeded in driving a huge wedge between US and India. Same with the whole Khalistan card and Canada.

It will soon be literally impossible for India to be dependent on the US, no matter how much the leaders on both sides want to bring it to reality. I mean is it conceivable that India will let Adani be handed over to US courts in chains? And will the attitudes of hindu nationalists be compatible with American nationalists?
 

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India is making inroads in taking over the US establishment. For example, Trump's pick for the next Director of National Intelligence is Tulsi Gabbard (she's Hindu, has strong Indian backers) and the next FBI director is Kash Patel. Let's not forget Vance's wife Usha and DOGE co director Vivek Ramaswamy.
Matches up perfectly with the historical take over of corporate America by Indian executives who spam Indian hires once in power. It’s really amazing how Indians have orchestrated this take over largely without triggering the sort of witch hunts that have been carried out whenever individuals of Chinese descent have gotten anywhere close to power.

As I’ve said in the past, the Indians play the real “soft power” game of infiltrating societies & taking them over from the inside. While Chinese play the “hard power” game of going head to head. Europeans/Americans, who fancy themselves a warrior culture, seem far weaker against the former than the latter especially when they are distracted.

The lesson is never underestimate Indians. Just because they don’t look great head to head doesn’t mean they aren’t proficient in other ways. As India’s demographics nears its peak and it looks to send more migrants around the world, countries in East Asia need to be vigilant lest they allow Indians to infiltrate them as well.
 

jiajia99

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China well knows exactly that this is India's strategy, so they're blowing up India's links with the west and exploiting the west's natural hatred of India. India might want to choose US, but China is making that choice unbearable. Then there won't be a choice left for India but to be neutral at the very least.

The charges on Adani are imho the biggest news from the last weeks at least, for the reason that it shows how repeated lawfare and info leaking has succeeded in driving a huge wedge between US and India. Same with the whole Khalistan card and Canada.

It will soon be literally impossible for India to be dependent on the US, no matter how much the leaders on both sides want to bring it to reality. I mean is it conceivable that India will let Adani be handed over to US courts in chains? And will the attitudes of hindu nationalists be compatible with American nationalists?
India simply cannot play chess at all, it know how to bullshit, but China is a 5D chess master where every action anyone takes (including all those trade wars and even the Ukraine war recently) will benefit China. If it does benefit China now, it will later on with interest. How can India, a nation that literally openly supports the genocide in Gaza where most countries in the world wouldn’t support such a thing (except the USA which has no concept of the word long term consequences), compete with China in anyway shape or form. They are self cancelling itself out of existence with almost no one wanting to go to India for a Holiday due to its dangerous reputation towards woman (which almost any female should understand by now unless they are living under a rock). You know a nation is failing when most of its smartest would rather get out of India then stay. Any short term success they may gain usually gets undone in the end, I mean look at Adani.
 

Index

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Matches up perfectly with the historical take over of corporate America by Indian executives who spam Indian hires once in power. It’s really amazing how Indians have orchestrated this take over largely without triggering the sort of witch hunts that have been carried out whenever individuals of Chinese descent have gotten anywhere close to power.

As I’ve said in the past, the Indians play the real “soft power” game of infiltrating societies & taking them over from the inside. While Chinese play the “hard power” game of going head to head. Europeans/Americans, who fancy themselves a warrior culture, seem far weaker against the former than the latter especially when they are distracted.

The lesson is never underestimate Indians. Just because they don’t look great head to head doesn’t mean they aren’t proficient in other ways. As India’s demographics nears its peak and it looks to send more migrants around the world, countries in East Asia need to be vigilant lest they allow Indians to infiltrate them as well.
I think you greatly underestimate how China does things. China didn't always have greater hard power than US, so how did they achieve it if they did nothing but go hard power against hard power all the time?

Far from going only hard power, or even an analogy like chess or weiqi, China plays geopolitics more like a high complexity MOBA. The goal of such games is usually to build an insurmountable advantage by taking many individually small favorable engagements. Every action costs time/resources, top level players optimise their actions for maximum power gain.

Some people who have little clue about geopolitics thinks China just does nothing and wins, funnily enough that's usually what a grandmaster MOBA player dropped into a casuals lobby also appears to be: doing nothing and winning.

Because casuals don't see how the grandmaster optimises his actions and knows exactly which fights he can/should take. They just see him "get lucky" always getting away with 1 hp and always "accidentally" showing up in decisive situations. Then once he snowballs in strength, casuals can only see that he is stronger in stats, but don't ask why he snowballed in the first place. They think "oh if next time I can farm up as much as him, I'll dominate just as much".

This is very much like Indian strategists who think "if we had no1 economy instead of China, we'd be even more powerful than they are".

You saw what Indian soft power is worth in the last few weeks of news. That's because Indian national strategists play like impulsive chess players that always exchange pieces whenever a piece is offered, always priortise moving pieces to threaten enemy pieces, without ever taking into account the whole board or a grand strategy.

These "demographic dividend" they seeded in US is nothing but highly exploitable gaps that both India and US should have seen coming. White supremacist and "democratic" westerner will inevitably fight autocratic hindutva. In the process, the West's mask falls off to the global south.

Guess who that benefits.

But the beauty of impulsive chess players is that they only ever think in terms of 1 move, or at most 1 tactic. They take whatever is offered in front of them with no regard for the greater whole picture.
 

gelgoog

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Is this article paid by those billions the US government hands out in anti-China propaganda?

Just pathetic. Anyone who knows about the railways in China knows that not all connections are at the same speed, and that there are mixed use lines. They also claim connecting a city with 32 million (Chongqing) in China with another city with 8 million with a new line that will cut travel times from 5 hours to 2 hours is a waste of money. Laughable.

In their marvelous economic ideal China would continue buying their Boeing aircraft and importing oil with dollars.
 

GulfLander

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Is this article paid by those billions the US government hands out in anti-China propaganda?

Just pathetic. Anyone who knows about the railways in China knows that not all connections are at the same speed, and that there are mixed use lines. They also claim connecting a city with 32 million (Chongqing) in China with another city with 8 million with a new line that will cut travel times from 5 hours to 2 hours is a waste of money. Laughable.

In their marvelous economic ideal China would continue buying their Boeing aircraft and importing oil with dollars.
Maybe the more CN is connected the harder to contain cN?
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