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SanWenYu

Captain
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Completely incomparable.

Actual surveys including some already posted here (I can't find easily on mobile but you probably can easily) show that the most discontent fall into 2 categories:

1. Urban, post 70s/80s who are the "bagholders" of the real estate crisis that bought high and are seeing their imaginary wealth go down.

2. Boomers in rural areas who missed out on the benefits of reform altogether.

Both demographics are now relatively old and have something to lose. Boomers have their pension to lose and the urban middle aged have their remaining property to lose, as well as their lives.

In 1989 the protestors had nothing to lose except their lives but had absolute power to gain if they won.

The problem is that unlike in 1989, mere reform is not enough to solve the problem. The issue is that these people are entitled. They are not satisfied with living in a safe society with good infrastructure. They want a society where they personally benefit from privilege and fuck anyone else who gets in their way. This toxic mindset has already brought down several other countries. A policy change to accommodate them would destroy actual trust in the government by everyone else, as privilege is inherently exclusionary.

Since reform will not work, further repression is the obvious solution. They might not be happy but making them powerless to lash about it would safeguard society as a whole.

They can always self deport elsewhere - without much of their money that will be prevented from leaving with capital controls - if they believe that China is too harsh on them.
IMO, there is now the third group, the laid flat youth who have become parasites living on their parents' retirement incomes. Automation will only make this group larger over time.

This is not a problem unique to China though. Perhaps at some point in the not so far future, the governments will need to collect tax of some sorts on robots for the jobs displaced.
 

CrazyHorse

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IMO, there is now the third group, the laid flat youth who have become parasites living on their parents' retirement incomes. Automation will only make this group larger over time.

This is not a problem unique to China though. Perhaps at some point in the not so far future, the governments will need to collect tax of some sorts on robots for the jobs displaced.
Socialists should like automation because it means that less people have to work shitty jobs. It’s not a problem for China because it knows it will be leaving a capitalist mode of production.
 

SanWenYu

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Socialists should like automation because it means that less people have to work shitty jobs. It’s not a problem for China because it knows it will be leaving a capitalist mode of production.
Except that China nowadays runs "the socialism with the Chinese characteristics". Those Chinese characteristics include free markets for all with only a few exceptions. The workers, unfortunately, are in a free market for hire, no matter what colours their shirt collars are in.

When someone lost his job to a robot, it would be hard to ask him to still love automation, in particular if the social safety nets have difficulty to keep the person's head above water. The governments will need new incomes to compensate for the increased social security spendings due to more job loss to robots.

Compared to, say, the US and some other developed countries, China is only in a slightly better position because to the Chinese governments personal income taxes are not as critical for now.
 

Randomuser

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Why can't the EU along with the wonderful British ask for all these stupendous technology from the true technological power and hub of innovation in all of Asia: India.

You don't have to believe me, a raging commie; instead, believe this Indian superior intellectual that lays down all the facts for the world to see.

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Who is this guy anyway? I've never heard of someone spouting such retarded takes? Anyone got more stuff to laugh at?
 

ficker22

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Why can't the EU along with the wonderful British ask for all these stupendous technology from the true technological power and hub of innovation in all of Asia: India.

You don't have to believe me, a raging commie; instead, believe this Indian superior intellectual that lays down all the facts for the world to see.

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China has no chance


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Vaishwaguru Modiji
 

fatzergling

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Except that China nowadays runs "the socialism with the Chinese characteristics". Those Chinese characteristics include free markets for all with only a few exceptions. The workers, unfortunately, are in a free market for hire, no matter what colours their shirt collars are in.

When someone lost his job to a robot, it would be hard to ask him to still love automation, in particular if the social safety nets have difficulty to keep the person's head above water. The governments will need new incomes to compensate for the increased social security spendings due to more job loss to robots.

Compared to, say, the US and some other developed countries, China is only in a slightly better position because to the Chinese governments personal income taxes are not as critical for now.
Why not seize the robots directly and distribute the production to the populace? If capital will produce all goods without human input, why not nationalize the capital and distribute its fruits to citizens? As long as China is (nominally) socialist, this is always a potential option. The US, by ruling out socialism, de facto rules out this potential response to automation.

By the way, I think it's hilarious how China teaches Marxism in schools and sends graduates into a free-market system. Given the cruelty of the free market, China can build support for socialism from disgruntled workers in ways that, say the USSR, cannot.
 

henrik

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IMO, there is now the third group, the laid flat youth who have become parasites living on their parents' retirement incomes. Automation will only make this group larger over time.

This is not a problem unique to China though. Perhaps at some point in the not so far future, the governments will need to collect tax of some sorts on robots for the jobs displaced.

As robots and AI takeover jobs, many Indians will try to make money on the social media instead.
 

pmc

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You can't scapegoat everything on the KMT, especially when there's no ties.

But there is some truth that you can unify the society by focusing on internal problems, finding an "other" to beat as a scapegoat. Though there isn't anywhere a significant enough issue with disunity that it would be needed to employ tricks.

In my view, China should wait until the US invades first, because China's up arming pace is faster than the US. While the so called "one China policy" humiliates our country much like the Minsk agreements, in the same way, they pragmatically also serve to buy us time to rearm, for the inevitable day where we'll return to the territories US want to annex.

Remember the goal for China is not just to defend it's territorial integrity, but to draw in the American aggressor, bleed him dry, destroy all the cities of his collaborators, and bury the spirit of American revanchism.
This myth that Minsk agreements were not in Russia interest.
Russia first has to go to Syria to learn Arabic standards and than apply those standards to Ukraine. and this is the only correct approach.
Every Gulf Monarchy no matter how small has its own Cultural importance. they are now putting guides in Arabic in Moscow street stops
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Bahrain Cultural Days in Moscow” A Window on Bahraini Culture Opens Its Doors in Russia​

 

PiSigma

"the engineer"
This is the maneuver that the Chinese vessel made above the cables that likely made the cut, could be explained away by the possibility it was just cleaning the anchor, but doing that right above a cable is unlikely. Could be sabotage.
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You don't need to go in circles to cut a cable. Just need to stop and drop anchor. What did the American ship tracking show when they blew up nordstream?
 

Index

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This is the maneuver that the Chinese vessel made above the cables that likely made the cut, could be explained away by the possibility it was just cleaning the anchor, but doing that right above a cable is unlikely. Could be sabotage.
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Its drawing an 8. The 8 is an internationally recognized sign of good fortune.
 
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