Trump is not only breath takingly stupid, but he also has a strong oppositional streak if one looks at his history. The more you tell him he should or should not do something, the more likely he is to do the opposite of what is advised simply out of spite or to oppose you. Of course then when it blows up in his face, then he looks for someone to blame...such as the people that advised him to not do what he did.
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Trump is not only breath takingly stupid, but he also has a strong oppositional streak if one looks at his history. The more you tell him he should or should not do something, the more likely he is to do the opposite of what is advised simply out of spite or to oppose you. Of course then when it blows up in his face, then he looks for someone to blame...such as the people that advised him to not do what he did.
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Thats a massive logical fallacy to use the full value of bilateral trade as if it was what is at stake. Or do you honestly think all US vassals are going to cut all trade with China to zero?
And China has not just been diversifying away from America, but also the EU and other ‘developed’ economies for its main export destinations, with exports to Asia and Africa worth more than Europe and the Americas. And that is overstating the share of America and the EU
Will a full blown trade war hurt? Of course. Which is why China doesn’t want one. But it is the only one who has actively and systematically been preparing for one. For the west to use trade to cause enough disruption to give China real headaches would collapse their own societies as their people’s already battered standards of living collapse without cheap Chinese imports helping to mitigate all the economic damage their own idiot leaders have inflicted upon them.
And that’s not even touching upon the more fundamental questions of just what it is the EU and the US makes that gives them so much value in today’s world economy. Is a handbag really worth as much as a car? What critical inputs does the EU and America sell to China that China literally could not do without that they themselves have not already weaponised and forced China to become self reliant on? Sure there is still much to do, and there will be massive damage and disruption for China, but the lights will stay on and the show will go on in China in the event of a total and immediate secession of trade between China and the west. How many weeks will western society last before they literally start eating each other in the streets?
Just like in 2016, there will be plenty of screeching about how EU can no longer rely on the US and bunch of buzzwords being thrown around by Brussels bureaucrats like "European sovereignty" and "strategic autonomy".
But the moment Democrat returns to White House, EUnuchs will quickly forget everything they were saying and return to their traditional submissive state.
Let's get real, if the west could have done this to hurt China they would have done it a long time ago. There's a reason why they haven't done it; their citizens will not tolerate drastic drops in living standards. They were first talking about "decoupling" then when they saw how the numbers won't favor them they quickly switched to "de-risking". China can export to the rest of the world, the west will saturate themselves to death. They couldn't even completely decouple from Russia, they aren't going to try it with China.
Is this real? French fans boycotted?? Or just too early for game?
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That rubio guy is going to have a hard time going against China's foreign minster Wang Yi. Any ridiculous move against China is going to face with a forceful retaliation.