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Iracundus

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China's entire history is filled with dealing with pillaging barbarians who mistake China's passivity for weakness, Europeans aren't the first, but they might be the last.

The problem is that is out of the West's historical memory and consciousness as a whole. They don't recall the last time China was a superpower. All they might remember at best is a perception of the late Qing when China was militarily weak, or maybe the chaos, corruption, and military weakness of the 1916-1920's warlord era. Even if academics remind the politicians of history, I think the politicians don't take it seriously at a fundamental level, or doubt the history, suspecting it of exaggerating China's prominence and power.
 

TPenglake

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In retrospect of the past week, we can expect the following things:

1. A split in Imperium Americana as their European vassals assert greater independence over support for the Ukraine-Russia War. Biden's old school transatlantic alliance is basically an exchange of EU economic, political and social concessions for US military aid. Since Trump doesn't want to give aid anymore, then it is not getting the economic/political/social concessions anymore. Expect more US social media to be banned.

2. I must admit that China played the EU-RU-US game well, and I underestimated their political shrewdness. EU has disdain for China, but absolutely abhors Trump. China did not change, EU changed, but their transatlantic faction was humiliated. They will need to come to China again, with hat in hand. China is the only country that can fulfill all of EU's economic, technological and social development goals. What is Ukraine, compared to the future of all Europe and even humanity?

3. Now the US will be pro climate change, completely against the interests of the entire world. China must educate the entire world, and particularly the EU and ASEAN, on not only the objectively greatest contribution to combating climate change and environmental degradation in the world, but on the great harm that US, Japan, South Korea, Philippines and Taiwan cause to the global environment.

4. US is going to increase taxes on all its East Asian vassals. Japan is the only one with the capability to resist, whether it has the will to do so is a question. Expect an even more hostile South Korea, which is not so bad, since they're also the ones in the weakest position, worse than Taiwan - Taiwan is an island, but South Korea is an island only for them and not an island for China. South Korea may yet become a brief experiment in the history of the Korean nation, a small few-decade interlude between centuries of Chinese influence.

5. Weakening Imperium Americana abroad causes further repression and division at home. Expect many American refugees to flee abroad, starting with those who have the most to lose and most ability to leave: Asian Americans, leftist (not liberal) whites and LGBT whites. This is perhaps ~10% of the US population [~30 million]. Those who do not see themselves as threatened, such as Latinos, or who have little ability to leave, like blacks, will form an axis of instability as Trump's policies inflict harm on them. Liberal whites will turn on their former allies of the 'rainbow coalition' in the end, mark my words. China can offer refuge for the qualified and direct the less qualified to other places that may benefit more from their presence.

5. Rabidly anti China policies that will not change until major humiliation and defeat cause it to shrink back into its corner. We cannot risk a repeat of WW2 where Adolf Hitler's escalations were met with appeasement. Pushback on all forms of aggression is the only way to ensure peace.
An additional thing I would add is the soft power angle and more to the point legitimacy. The bedrock of American softpower has always been liberal democracy, it was the coffee that fueled dreams of millions around the world for a century. When you think about it, blue jeans and Hollywood movies only really acted as the milk and sugar that made liberal democracy sweeter. Its an ideaology that had been gradually losing its shine for some time, but now with the world's most powerful liberal democratic country electing a rapist and convicted felon who has plans to consolidate all America political power around the Republican party, the values that upheld the global American alliance are now dead.

Yes, American "freedom" has always been a farce, but empires cannot rule without legitimacy and American politicians pre-Trump have always provided the minimum lip service necessary to maintain that illusion so that other states could justify their continued servitude to the American imperium. With Trump only going to target China on selective basis and going scorched earth politically at home to cement MAGA's rule, what cause will its vassals and pro-democracy Chinese people rally around other than simply not liking China and Chinese people? (Tbf for some that's the only reason they'll ever need) The rules based international order entirely loses its meaning. Stating the obvious, this provides an oppurtunity for China. It won't happen immediately, since the country still has its economic troubles and will suffer from the tariff war. But China has the will to continue becoming self-sufficient in tech and improving the standards of living for its people. With China making international travel easier, the growing dominance of Chinese multi-nationals, tech self sufficiency, and improvement of Chinese cultural exports, the time has come for China to only improve its standing globally, but to seize legitimacy from America.

What a time to be alive.
 

Bellum_Romanum

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Sweet EU democracy at work in Valencia, Spain. Where corruption is apparently and allegedly rampant.

Exhibit A:

Head of Spain’s police fincrime unit arrested as €20m cash found in his home; dirty money linked to 13 tonnes cocaine haul

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Exhibit B:

The government in power in Valencia didn't even win the election but manage to build up enough coalition with other parties which then allowed them to come to power. And now that disaster has struck their city all busy finger pointing at each other none are taking responsibility whatsoever. Then, to put the icing on the cake this happened prior to the tragedy that was to be unleashed to the highly erudite and competent leader as detailed by a Spanish poster on Reddit: "It's been discovered that, during the floods that basically destroyed Valencia last week, the president of the Comunitat Valenciana (Mazon) was having a lunch, ignoring the phone, not only that but he arrived incredibly late to the reunion about what to do, and sent the emergency messages at 8PM, when people was already dying and the flood striking in full force. What was that lunch about? To decide who would be the leader of the Valencian TV (Wich he cannot just decide by himself, but not like he cared about it, he confessed doing it anyways, he didn't care about that actual crime). It's one thing to be incompetent, to mismanage a crisis, it's another whole story not giving a flying fuck about the crisis and start to lie about what happened and go "I did nothing wrong! It's the central government fault!"

Here's the result:


Exhibit C: As the famous American comedian/pseudo-intellectual said on one of his famous skit:

There was enough Spanish folks who voted to the party who managed to take power was ANTI-CLIMATE nutters. Not to mention, the pro-climate folks are not better either by doing these:
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Oh did I mention that the President's wife is also under investigation for corruption felonies, and his brother caught for tax evasion, his Nº2 has been also implicated on a case of selling masks to the goverment during the Pandemic while doubling the price through a company created by one of his helpers...FUBAR!! But, please let's TARIFF CHINESE EV'S!!! MUH ENVIRONMENT!! See See Pee Chyna leaders are so corrupt!!!
 

luminary

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The increasing gender ideological divide will definitely NOT help to increase the birth rates, you fight with your wife/girlfriend even you both agree politically, I cant imagine when one is super right wing conservative and the other is far left angry feminist how the fights are going to be.

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I can't tell if the militant feminism and 4B spreading around online is real or just another echo chamber brewed by freedom house.


Regardless, Chinese youth would do well to stay out of it.


Meanwhile, latest Asian dating app got invaded by yellow fever white dudes. I'm glad to see Gen Z is super sensitive about it.
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Bellum_Romanum

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And in my view, the observations and expressions that Dr. Eric Li made regarding the need for Liberal political democratic reform or else fail is getting it's comeuppance. The people that's running the system have forgotten to govern that serves the best interest of its people as they now have become too enamored with their grandiose dogmatic imposition of ideas. Instead of " You campaign in poetry; You govern in Prose" they do perpetual campaign mode.


On voting:

 

Index

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America's big bet is that AGI is less than 2 years away, and this below the belt kneecap rugpull will allow USA to secure AI super dominance and thus save American hegemony etc
Both of our countries kinda have AGI already... It's a glorified search engine if you don't take the steps to apply it into sectors.

What will determine AI dominance is who can better implement AI into logistics planning, industry etc.

Probably more things from China than expected can already be credited to AI. We're seeing faster than usual expansion of tech and design, despite the population itself not increasing by that much.
 

iewgnem

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The problem is that is out of the West's historical memory and consciousness as a whole. They don't recall the last time China was a superpower. All they might remember at best is a perception of the late Qing when China was militarily weak, or maybe the chaos, corruption, and military weakness of the 1916-1920's warlord era. Even if academics remind the politicians of history, I think the politicians don't take it seriously at a fundamental level, or doubt the history, suspecting it of exaggerating China's prominence and power.
The west has historical memory less than 2 election cycles, they're driven by a constant primal need to dominate others and pillage for wealth, like all the barbarians China had to deal with in the past.

But that doesn't matter, China is here while barbarians aren't precisely because China learns, barbarians don't, and one of those lessons is the need to have total dominance over industry and technology, something the west already forgot less than 40 years after the cold war.
 

_killuminati_

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Can someone in the know explain this?

Could this be fake?
Maybe American Jews don't desire aggressive support to Israel?
Trump not pro Israel enough?
???
Even if some Jews are anti-Israel, they will still vote one or the other based on other policies of the candidates. In America, both Democrats and Republicans support Israel, so there is not much choice as a voter other than to not vote at all.

The climate thing is honestly a culmination of 2+ decades of a vast gamble between US and China. US gambled that fracking would be the future, while China gambled that EVs and renewables would be the future.
I don't believe so. Rather, it appears the US gambled that they would be the leading pioneers of EV and clean energy. But China surprised them with a better clean tech industry + their corrupt corporate culture could not deliver nor compete. Hence, no more bombarding the news with "Global Warming" sensationalist nonsense that we saw daily for the past 20 years (because doing so now will only provide free marketing to the Chinese industry). Trump appears pragmatic in light of this development, sensing the US has been defeated and wants to move on.

Here's a question. Which country's geography and topology fascinates you the most??
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