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iewgnem

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it is still single most important country but it does not mean it can take alliance of much bigger population countries alone
and yes Saudis are independent you can see from there stance on China related issues. No one can sway them. so your earlier assertions of too deep (meaning of too deep) in Western Camp were wrong along with defeating Houthis.
Houthi lost the country despite Saudis not properly closing the supply lines and now getting bombed by some one else. Thats the Saudi power to hand over problem.
Even UAE is worth more than Iran.
At end of the day it's objective reality that none of Saudi Arabia's US supplied modern weapons will work in a conflict with Israel, e.g. their F-15s would be unable to target Israeli jets assuming they can even take off.

Saudi Arabia is independent in so far as playing their oil card, but when it comes to war they're completely subject to what's permitted by the US and Israel.
 

HereToSeePics

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China slaps sanctions on 3 US firms, 10 senior execs over weapons sales to Taiwan​



If China’s able to effectively enforce sanctions against Skydio’s supply chain (the US based drone maker, that also happens to be the main lobbyist for a bulk of the anti DJI bills going through congress), it might just potentially annihilate the company. Even though the bodies of Skydio’s drones are “Made in the USA”, a vast majority of the components are only cost effectively made in China. They import the motors, the motor speed controllers, even then controller and lithium ion battery chargers from China. I can’t imagine them trying to produce their own drone motors by winding hundreds rotors by hand or contacting out to niche manufacturers that typically serve specialty and defense sectors at 1000% premiums over consumer market prices.
 

supersnoop

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If China’s able to effectively enforce sanctions against Skydio’s supply chain (the US based drone maker, that also happens to be the main lobbyist for a bulk of the anti DJI bills going through congress), it might just potentially annihilate the company. Even though the bodies of Skydio’s drones are “Made in the USA”, a vast majority of the components are only cost effectively made in China. They import the motors, the motor speed controllers, even then controller and lithium ion battery chargers from China. I can’t imagine them trying to produce their own drone motors by winding hundreds rotors by hand or contacting out to niche manufacturers that typically serve specialty and defense sectors at 1000% premiums over consumer market prices.
Funny, I was thinking the same thing, I was thinking perhaps they imported more parts from Japan or Taiwan.
Cost effectiveness is not so relevant to them. They use those anti-DJI bills to create a captive market. Law enforcement, federal agencies don't have many other options. If you look as their latest commercial pricing (no longer pursuing consumer business), they are basically selling "drone as a service" plans. They did release a non-subscription required model this year X10, allegedly costing in the neighbourhood of $15K USD for a Mavic-class drone. I imagine if Ukraine only had access to Skydio drones, Russian forces would have been in Lviv as of Spring.
 

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At end of the day it's objective reality that none of Saudi Arabia's US supplied modern weapons will work in a conflict with Israel, e.g. their F-15s would be unable to target Israeli jets assuming they can even take off.

Saudi Arabia is independent in so far as playing their oil card, but when it comes to war they're completely subject to what's permitted by the US and Israel.
when it comes to war almost 100% of countries are deterred by sanction threat from US if a country has half decent living standards. so its moot point what kind of weopons it purchases. Saudi own population is less than 20m so it is not like they can built factories to make there own weopons. Saudis invaded Bahrain with western weopons and defeated Houthis.
Also having own weopons like Iran/Ukraine gives misplaced self confidence. You can already see Iranians missiles are pinpricks compared to imported bombs from Israel. Iran has lost legitimacy among its Arab followers as it could not protect them.
 

Chevalier

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I think they call that, "Out of the frying pan and into the fire."

How cute. The man wants a bear skin rug but does not want to fight a bear LOL
Anglos are not a warrior race, as much as they would like to believe it; they are not Chechens or Pashtuns. They don’t even have the strong sense of family essential to these cultures. Anglos as a culture are a merchant piratical race hence why they are perfectly fine suing family members or putting their parents into nursing homes before even attempting to perform their filial duties.


it appears that despite the great liberal revolutions of the 19th century, that Europeans so quickly revert to autocracy.

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I expect Chinese cities to look solarpunk in the near future
 

RobertC

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... it might just potentially annihilate the company. Even though the bodies of Skydio’s drones are “Made in the USA”, a vast majority of the components are only cost effectively made in China. They import the motors, the motor speed controllers, even then controller and lithium ion battery chargers from China.
I pulled on that thread so see where it led. Not very far. Skydio is almost alone in its drone maker category and it left the consumer market last year. It's received about $0.5B private equity money and hasn't filed an S-1 with the SEC. So living off government and business contracts only. So far I see no signs of an "omnibus" contract so each contract must be individually priced and terms negotiated. This is expensive for a small business and greatly increases overhead costs which are rolled into product costs which results in fewer drones out the door and RDTE starvation spiral.

So I'm agreeing with HereToSeePics. Unless the Federal government steps in with an "omnibus" contract for Federal, state and local governments and their industry partners that provides the foundation investments needed, I'm not seeing a successful transition from Chinese suppliers either.
 

ansy1968

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"China's BYD wants to build cars in India, but has no 'direct' signal of investment rules easing"​


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Baloney!!!!, BYD had NO INTEREST to build cars in India and why should they? its a snake pit. BYD even want India to pay the full amount for the EV bus they plan to import....lol This article is so malicious that even a 10 year child can decipher it.
 

Knight Kien

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Gotta give it to India. They really are taking the heat off China in some ways. All those anti China shills and traitors will need to find real jobs since their engagement has plummeted as the average person moves on to hate India more. The elites trying to keep their pet project alive only makes things worse.

Can't blame the average person for being more interested in hating on India either. The stories you hear about it are so whacky you cant believe they are real yet they somehow are. You even have video evidence which I try to avoid since some of it is really disgusting to the naked eye. Like even the most undeveloped parts of Africa will not have people doing such stuff. Then you have the online Jai hinds telling you that eating cow dung is a GOOD thing.

So when people hear another China bad story, it just becomes oh ok in a sort of bored tone.
 

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