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iewgnem

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pmc said:
it is still single most important country but it does not mean it can take alliance of much bigger population countries alone
and yes Saudis are independent you can see from there stance on China related issues. No one can sway them. so your earlier assertions of too deep (meaning of too deep) in Western Camp were wrong along with defeating Houthis.
Houthi lost the country despite Saudis not properly closing the supply lines and now getting bombed by some one else. Thats the Saudi power to hand over problem.
Even UAE is worth more than Iran.
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At end of the day it's objective reality that none of Saudi Arabia's US supplied modern weapons will work in a conflict with Israel, e.g. their F-15s would be unable to target Israeli jets assuming they can even take off.

Saudi Arabia is independent in so far as playing their oil card, but when it comes to war they're completely subject to what's permitted by the US and Israel.
 
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China slaps sanctions on 3 US firms, 10 senior execs over weapons sales to Taiwan​

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If China’s able to effectively enforce sanctions against Skydio’s supply chain (the US based drone maker, that also happens to be the main lobbyist for a bulk of the anti DJI bills going through congress), it might just potentially annihilate the company. Even though the bodies of Skydio’s drones are “Made in the USA”, a vast majority of the components are only cost effectively made in China. They import the motors, the motor speed controllers, even then controller and lithium ion battery chargers from China. I can’t imagine them trying to produce their own drone motors by winding hundreds rotors by hand or contacting out to niche manufacturers that typically serve specialty and defense sectors at 1000% premiums over consumer market prices.
 
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If China’s able to effectively enforce sanctions against Skydio’s supply chain (the US based drone maker, that also happens to be the main lobbyist for a bulk of the anti DJI bills going through congress), it might just potentially annihilate the company. Even though the bodies of Skydio’s drones are “Made in the USA”, a vast majority of the components are only cost effectively made in China. They import the motors, the motor speed controllers, even then controller and lithium ion battery chargers from China. I can’t imagine them trying to produce their own drone motors by winding hundreds rotors by hand or contacting out to niche manufacturers that typically serve specialty and defense sectors at 1000% premiums over consumer market prices.
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Funny, I was thinking the same thing, I was thinking perhaps they imported more parts from Japan or Taiwan.
Cost effectiveness is not so relevant to them. They use those anti-DJI bills to create a captive market. Law enforcement, federal agencies don't have many other options. If you look as their latest commercial pricing (no longer pursuing consumer business), they are basically selling "drone as a service" plans. They did release a non-subscription required model this year X10, allegedly costing in the neighbourhood of $15K USD for a Mavic-class drone. I imagine if Ukraine only had access to Skydio drones, Russian forces would have been in Lviv as of Spring.
 
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