Russia can do the ultimate F you move and supply iran with nukes. I don't know why Russia hasn't considered that.
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Iran today has seemingly become immune to direct Israeli attacks, although Israel can still rope in US to help them attack Iran directly.
They're now a very different country than when they were isolationist. There is a weapons tech and industry pipeline going from China and even NK that is essentially fully secure. They're also importing more arms.
A nuclear Iran is not a good idea. China is banking on Iran as a bait for US, which requires US to directly try and invade. And US won't do that to a nuclear power. Secondly, if China acting through Russia normalizes the practice of giving nukes to countries to prevent US invasion, US can also motivate giving nukes to countries where China may want a future military solution, especially SK and Japan.
In the cold war, China's side is stronger militarily compared to US' side, so if the cold war is changed so that military forces cannot be used as easily (because of widespread nuke proliferation), China will experience more difficulty than US because of the changes.
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No, just keep it in the middle-eastern context that we are doing so well with because a quarter million Chinese people died defending North Korea. It's a bad joke to say that they are our proxies and they are expendable to us when we actually died for them.
How hard? A lot harder than cope. A assassinated 12 government officials and 30 proxy team leaders of B. B assassinated no one from A. Conclusion: B's security is pretty good, not bad at all. It's just that A likes to use terrorists tactics. B could use them too but you know, they don't like that. Clap clap, good shit.
Absolutely immune. Iran's assets are getting whacked everywhere in the middle east by Israel, including in Iran itself but sure, just because Israel hasn't gotten around to smoking Iran directly yet, let's say they're immune. Hey, I'm immune to getting arrested by the police, did you know that? That's evidenced in the fact that they haven't arrested me yet.
It seems like Iran's passive approach isn't working at all. Iran's approach to avoid war with Israel is also making Iran look weak.
Pro-Iranian media and Chinese state media have already reported Nasrallah's death. Looks likely he was killed by the Israelis. For the record, in the past few months Israel has already killed the #2 in Iran, #2 in Hamas and #1 in Hezbollah.
Still nothing from Iran, the laughing stock of the Middle East.
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yeah whatever. China definitely doesn't want a nuclear Iran.
China also definitely doesn't want and has in fact (in good way) warned Russia against using nuclear weapons on Ukraine. It's not a blanket statement though, the West also has to calibrate the degree of assistance that it provides to Ukraine.
In general, nuclear topic is extremely complex and should be best left undiscussed due to its inherent complexity
A nuclear Iran would put an end to the thought of US ever starting a war with Iran.
But China and Russia both want US to start a war with Iran
Israel wants the US to start a war with Iran. If Iran gets defeated, US gets control of strait of Hormuz thus giving them greater control over world trade which isn't good for chinaBut China and Russia both want US to start a war with Iran
I think China will only arm Iran if in a war US arms Taiwan. We don't know when that would happen.
Russia has more urgent need to arm US enemies as it is in a direct conflict