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Temstar

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I knew it was too damn risky to have random factory workers handle explosives.

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Hezbollah procurement system compromised about 3 years ago it seems. Why would you order a completely unfamiliar and unsupported system?
Yeah right European distributor

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Some interesting customers Gold Apollo has.
 

RedMetalSeadramon

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Yeah right European distributor

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Some interesting customers Gold Apollo has.
Hungary, Budapest

BAC seems to be consultants rather than manufacturer themselves.

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NEW TAIPEI: Taiwan's Gold Apollo said on Wednesday (Sep 18) that the pagers used in the detonations in Lebanon had not been made by it but by a company called BAC which has a licence to use its brand.

At least nine people were killed and nearly 3,000 wounded when pagers used by Hezbollah members detonated simultaneously across Lebanon on Tuesday. According to a senior Lebanese security source and another source, explosives inside the devices were planted by Israel's Mossad spy agency.

Images of destroyed pagers analysed by Reuters showed a format and stickers on the back that were consistent with pagers made by Gold Apollo.

"The product was not ours. It was only that it had our brand on it," Gold Apollo founder and president Hsu Ching-kuang told reporters at the company's offices in the northern Taiwanese city of New Taipei on Wednesday.

The company said in a statement that the AR-924 model was produced and sold by BAC.

Gold Apollo authorised "BAC to use (its) brand trademark for product sales in specific regions, but the design and manufacturing of the products are entirely handled by BAC", the statement said.

Hsu earlier said the firm with the licence was based in Europe but later declined to comment on BAC's location.

He added there had been problems with remittances from the firm.

"The remittance was very strange," he said, adding that payments had come through the Middle East. He did not elaborate further.

Hezbollah fighters began using pagers in the belief they would be able to evade Israeli tracking of their locations, two sources familiar with the group's operations told Reuters this year.

Hsu said he did not know how the pagers could have been rigged to explode.

While Hsu was meeting with reporters, police officials arrived at the company. Officials from Taiwan's economy ministry also visited Gold Apollo.

The ministry said in a statement that there was no record of direct pager exports from Taiwan to Lebanon.

Hsu also said that Gold Apollo was a victim of the incident and planned to sue the licensee.

"We may not be a large company but we are a responsible one," he said. "This is very embarrassing."
 
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_killuminati_

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I really don't understand how a Chinese supposedly "learned" man could even bring himself to do what he did on the picture, other than him wanting to become part of the ruling cabal that has worldwide tentacles.

Jack Ma, got too big for his britches and assumed that he'll be able to cow the CPC and GenSec Xi to his destructive agenda. Good riddance.
Greed doesn't discriminate between races. Many of those evil entities are learned men (and women).

After 9/11 the Afghan govt was toast if it did not hand OBL over, we told them that, they ignored us.
Source?
 

plawolf

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I knew it was too damn risky to have random factory workers handle explosives.

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Hezbollah procurement system compromised about 3 years ago it seems. Why would you order a completely unfamiliar and unsupported system?

If it was in the works for so long, then this is, or was, an Israeli trump card.

Imagine how much more useful this would have been if used during an actual war between Israel and Hezbollah.

Not only would it kill and wound Hezbollah personnel directly, but it would also paralyse Hezbollah command and control for a time as it distributes alternative comms gear across its organisation, during active combat operations. That was the real power of the move.

It could have been a total game changing moment for the Israelis, especially if used during a critical moment or during a large operation with significant Hezbollah personal actively engaged on the frontlines. It’s the sort of move that can turn the tide and win wars.

That Israel used this move now, for so little gain, should be seen as a sign of just how desperate Israel is becoming. This is a true Blinken ‘position of strength’ move.

This is also why I think Iran and Hezbollah will hold firm to their current strategy. While it’s not as spectacular or satisfying as blowing things up all across Israel. The slow social economic strangulation and diplomatic isolation is far more damaging to the Israeli state. Fighting alone, Israel is slowly dying from a thousand cuts. It desperately needs to drag America into the fight to take the pressure off. America isn’t totally stupid and compromised by Israel, so isn’t allowing Israel to do that, which is why Israel needs Iran and Hezbollah to start a war to force America’s hand.
 

coolgod

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China's new sanctions just dropped :)

一、内华达山脉公司(Sierra Nevada Corporation)

二、摇杆舵公司(Stick Rudder Enterprises LLC)

三、立方公司(Cubic Corporation)

四、S3航空防务公司(S3 AeroDefense)

五、特科姆公司(TCOM, Limited Partnership)

六、文本矿公司(TextOre)

七、扁平地球管理公司(Planate Management Group)

八、ACT1联邦公司(ACT1 Federal)

九、埃克索维拉公司(Exovera)

美国近日再次宣布向中国台湾地区出售武器,严重违反一个中国原则和中美三个联合公报,严重干涉中国内政,严重损害中国主权和领土完整。依据《中华人民共和国反外国制裁法》第三条、第四条、第六条、第九条、第十五条规定,中方决定对美国内华达山脉公司、摇杆舵公司、立方公司、S3航空防务公司、特科姆公司、文本矿公司、扁平地球管理公司、ACT1联邦公司、埃克索维拉公司等9家后附《反制清单》列明的企业采取以下反制措施:

一、冻结在我国境内的动产、不动产和其他各类财产;

二、禁止我国境内的组织、个人与其进行有关交易、合作等活动。

本决定自2024年9月18日起施行。

Wanwanese netizen's take on the recent pager bombs.
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Chevalier

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I really don't understand how a Chinese supposedly "learned" man could even bring himself to do what he did on the picture, other than him wanting to become part of the ruling cabal that has worldwide tentacles.

Jack Ma, got too big for his britches and assumed that he'll be able to cow the CPC and GenSec Xi to his destructive agenda. Good riddance.

Nope, Jack Ma was always an idiot. His "knowledge" has been a joke since that AI debate he had with Elon Musk.
This is the issue with a capitalist society; where we supposedly ascribe traits of intelligence and competence to individuals who become billionaires when it is far more likely due to their individual OCD or ruthlessness.
 

coolgod

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Sources: China aircraft carrier navigates Japan's contiguous zone for 1st time​

NHK has learned that a Chinese aircraft carrier briefly entered Japan's contiguous zone early on Wednesday.

Sources say the Liaoning sailed between two islands, Yonaguni and Iriomote, in Okinawa Prefecture, southwestern Japan.

This is the first time for a Chinese naval aircraft carrier to navigate in Japan's contiguous zone.

Keywords: Liaoning, 9/18

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_killuminati_

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If it was in the works for so long, then this is, or was, an Israeli trump card.

Imagine how much more useful this would have been if used during an actual war between Israel and Hezbollah.

Not only would it kill and wound Hezbollah personnel directly, but it would also paralyse Hezbollah command and control for a time as it distributes alternative comms gear across its organisation, during active combat operations. That was the real power of the move.

It could have been a total game changing moment for the Israelis, especially if used during a critical moment or during a large operation with significant Hezbollah personal actively engaged on the frontlines. It’s the sort of move that can turn the tide and win wars.

That Israel used this move now, for so little gain, should be seen as a sign of just how desperate Israel is becoming. This is a true Blinken ‘position of strength’ move.

This is also why I think Iran and Hezbollah will hold firm to their current strategy. While it’s not as spectacular or satisfying as blowing things up all across Israel. The slow social economic strangulation and diplomatic isolation is far more damaging to the Israeli state. Fighting alone, Israel is slowly dying from a thousand cuts. It desperately needs to drag America into the fight to take the pressure off. America isn’t totally stupid and compromised by Israel, so isn’t allowing Israel to do that, which is why Israel needs Iran and Hezbollah to start a war to force America’s hand.
Maybe IOF has more rigged devices in Lebanon. Or maybe they just wanted to ease the pressure Hezbollah had been mounting in northern Israel with numerous attacks daily.
 

Minm

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Maybe IOF has more rigged devices in Lebanon. Or maybe they just wanted to ease the pressure Hezbollah had been mounting in northern Israel with numerous attacks daily.

After this attack, they'll surely be checking all their devices.

Maybe they had to use it soon, to avoid the sabotage being discovered as old pagers start breaking. But they could definitely have caused far more damage, if it had been paired with a series of airstrikes.

Might be a sign of debate within the Israeli leadership. Maybe the outgoing defence minister or the army was against the attack but the more radical elements of the leadership used the intelligence agenciest o provoke a war in Lebanon that the army doesn't want
 
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