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Index said:

As I see it, it's very overblown for Chinese in America to worry about being put in concentration camps during war anyways.

If they do that, they leave themselves with no way to deescalate and immediately set the stage that the war will be a war of total annihilation with no mercy possible.

The nature of the conflict means that there will invariably be a lot of American and America friendly civilian and PoWs in China's hands. A fair bit of Chinese have some relatives in US, and a fair bit among those are in the PLA or will end up in PLA from mobilisation. What do you think happens when PLA officers and grunts alike who had their children/uncles/parents/friends Holocausted by US whenever they stumble on some pro-American civvies or captured US forces?

So rather what I guess will happen (and the same applies to NATO civilians in China) is that they will just all have their visas cancelled and hurried back to their home country.

It's to the point where I'd guess the US government would deploy security units to mitigate overly nationalist Americans from doing pogroms until all the Chinese have left, because giving PLA frontline more license to believe it's a racial war of annihilation absolutely does not benefit US/US vassal frontline.

Not like it's 1930 anymore and it would take a long time to discover a genocide just by word of mouth from escapees.

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If the Americans actually cared about their soldiers, veteran benefits wouldn't be the meme that it is. All the stats regarding chronic injuries and illnesses, homelessness, suicide for current and former service members suggest that the MIC sees them as nothing but fodder.

If they don't give a shit about their own soldiers, you think they will care about Chinese Americans or Chinese nationals?

Comedy if it wasn't such a tragedy

coolgod said:

Too late, China sees through India's ruse.

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China Asks Its Carmakers to Keep Key EV Technology at Home​

• Firms encouraged to export knock-down kits, assemble locally
• India, Turkey mentioned specifically with regard to investment

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Hopefully this applies to ALL technologies, not just EV. Chinese companies should not help India develop its manufacturing sector and create a competitor. Electronics, automotive, semiconductors, telecommunications, battery, solar, robotics, shipbuilding, rail, machinery/tools/equipment, raw material extraction technology, etc should be strictly controlled. Don’t give away these technologies to anyone let alone loincloth imperialists that want to exclude China in everything and has joined containment groups like Quad. India is no friend of China.

GZDRefugee said:

If the Americans actually cared about their soldiers, veteran benefits wouldn't be the meme that it is. All the stats regarding chronic injuries and illnesses, homelessness, suicide for current and former service members suggest that the MIC sees them as nothing but fodder.

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Veterans have better labor market outcomes than the general population - .

that a cohort of 20 million people, 90% men have members with disability, illness, homelessness, and suicide is the least surprising thing in the world

GZDRefugee said:

If the Americans actually cared about their soldiers, veteran benefits wouldn't be the meme that it is. All the stats regarding chronic injuries and illnesses, homelessness, suicide for current and former service members suggest that the MIC sees them as nothing but fodder.

If they don't give a shit about their own soldiers, you think they will care about Chinese Americans or Chinese nationals?

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Legititimacy is a huge question for US if they are starting a war against China. US is hoping for NATO countries to at least sanction China when US invades. If US can frame an US invasion as "protecting the freedom of democratic separatists in Taiwan against evil CPC", it would make it much more politically defenisble for NATO countries to sanction China or even aid US.

Whereas if they go mask off and show this is a racial great war against China by holocausing Chinese travellers, expats and even people who were ethnic Chinese a few generation ago for their skin color, this conduct won't be politically defensible anywhere and US can only expect neutrality at best from NATO.

Imagine for example if a country like Lithuania wanted to sanction China while US is fighting a clean war against only the PLA and let all Chinese visitors go home after visa cancellation, vs if US was openly genocidal. In the first case, Lithuania is endorsing a position of, anti communism, pro "democracy", maybe pro western. In the latter case, they are blatantly endorsing an ethnic cleansing. Which position do you think carries a higher risk of being war declared on by China? Even if deep inside they want an ethnic cleansing, they would not dare to speak it out loud, because of the risk of retaliation.

It's not about US PoW lives but about US being able to have some control to deescalate in a war they're outnumbered and outgunned in. If you go from 0-100 and start ethnic cleansing, China will also do interesting things in retaliation on every NATO/Pro-US immigrant, and any such caught in the path of their offensive. And there's nothing US can do to deescalate the situation. Don't forget there's also a few 100 000s at least civilian Americans in China, and even more in the surroundings.

Hence it's much better/realistic for US if Chinese people are simply forced to take the next ship/flight to Indonesia or some other neutral and then head back to the mainland. It achieves the same positive effect (no ethnic Chinese spies) with none of the massive downsides.

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Who wrote the title? There was no meltdown; they were happy about it.

"In the photos the president is seen “Trump 2024” and smiling. The X account of the Trump War Room was quick to share the image, writing “Thanks for the support, Joe!”

“Sleepy Joe, welcome aboard the Trump Train!!!!” wrote one user, with another adding: “Finally hopped on board!” Another branded Biden’s wearing of the hat as “the smartest thing he’s done in his entire political career.”

Bloomberg is trying to remind Jai Hind land to get to work already instead of continuing to revel in it's own "demographic dividend" hype.

It feels like supporting an up and coming athlete who hasn't proven much. But that dude is spending too much time celebrating his own hype than actually training hard and improving his game. Sooner or later, his youth will fade, he plateaus at mediocrity, and he'll end up becoming a footnote in the sporting history.

Poor quality of education. Lack of job opportunities. Under-rewarding career opportunities. The best talents go abroad, while the rest compete over scraps. Modi continuing to make fake promises after fake promises and win votes. All this while the top industrial nations like China are already in the 4th industrial revolution race.

chgough34 said:

Veterans have better labor market outcomes than the general population -

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that a cohort of 20 million people, 90% men have members with disability, illness, homelessness, and suicide is the least surprising thing in the world

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2017 lol. A 20 year war has ended between the time this study was conducted and now.

Index said:

Legititimacy is a huge question for US if they are starting a war against China. US is hoping for NATO countries to at least sanction China when US invades.

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Consent is not needed from non-sovereign members of NATO.

Index said:

If US can frame an US invasion as "protecting the freedom of democratic separatists in Taiwan against evil CPC", it would make it much more politically defenisble for NATO countries to sanction China or even aid US.

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In case you haven't noticed, they're already doing these things without there being an active war.

Index said:

Whereas if they go mask off and show this is a racial great war against China by holocausing Chinese travellers, expats and even people who were ethnic Chinese a few generation ago for their skin color, this conduct won't be politically defensible anywhere and US can only expect neutrality at best from NATO.

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Because all evidence suggests that the ongoing media smear campaign reduced sinophobia since 2015? Unfortunately, it seems that the average westerner gleefully consumes the alphabet soup propaganda and then asks for seconds. Consent for war has already been manufactured, look around you.

Index said:

Imagine for example if a country like Lithuania wanted to sanction China while US is fighting a clean war against only the PLA and let all Chinese visitors go home after visa cancellation, vs if US was openly genocidal. In the first case, Lithuania is endorsing a position of, anti communism, pro "democracy", maybe pro western. In the latter case, they are blatantly endorsing an ethnic cleansing. Which position do you think carries a higher risk of being war declared on by China? Even if deep inside they want an ethnic cleansing, they would not dare to speak it out loud, because of the risk of retaliation.

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Nobody actually cares about Democracy™. The status quo that they derive significant privileges from is being threatened. China winning would adversely affect their quality of life and purchasing power, thus cannot be allowed under any circumstance.

Index said:

It's not about US PoW lives but about US being able to have some control to deescalate in a war they're outnumbered and outgunned in. If you go from 0-100 and start ethnic cleansing, China will also do interesting things in retaliation on every NATO/Pro-US immigrant, and any such caught in the path of their offensive. And there's nothing US can do to deescalate the situation. Don't forget there's also a few 100 000s at least civilian Americans in China, and even more in the surroundings.

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There won't be de-escalation. The moment any side is about to lose is when the nukes start flying. Right now the US has escalation dominance and they won't allow China to eke out a victory. This won't change until China reaches nuclear parity and a reset to zero for both sides can be guaranteed.

Index said:

Hence it's much better/realistic for US if Chinese people are simply forced to take the next ship/flight to Indonesia or some other neutral and then head back to the mainland. It achieves the same positive effect (no ethnic Chinese spies) with none of the massive downsides.

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Merchant mentality. Real patriots would go innawoods and wage a Protracted People's War in the heartlands of the enemy.

Sardaukar20 said:

Bloomberg is trying to reminding Jai Hind land to get to work instead of reveling in it's own "demographic dividend" hype.

It feels like supporting an up and coming athlete who hasn't proven much. But that dude is spending too much time celebrating his own hype than actually training hard and improving his game. Sooner or later, his youth will fade, he plateaus at mediocrity, and he'll end up becoming a footnote in the sporting history.

Poor quality of education. Lack of job opportunities. Under-rewarding career opportunities. The best talents go abroad, while the rest compete over scraps. Modi continuing to make fake promises after fake promises and win votes. All this while the top industrial nations like China are already in the 4th industrial revolution race.

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In India, age fraud is very common in sports. You may notice India has a stronger performance in U20 and those competitions. You hear them boast about how he is gonna be the next world champ etc. And then you never hear about him again.

It's easy to look good beating a bunch of kids way younger than you. Then you think you are actually legit and then you go to the adult competition and get spanked hard.