Miscellaneous News

Chevalier

Captain
Registered Member
What you mean chosen one? Who choose them? their god that they created?
What's ironic is that a lot of zionists are atheists or secular jews, so on the one hand they're not particularly religious but somehow they believe that 'God' (which they apparently dont believe in and also believe they can outwit and cheat their God), that 'god' granted them this 'promised land' when none of them share any genetic linkage to the middle east/levant.

This line of thinking is consistent with what Putin said of anglo atlanticists, that they 'lack principles' and will say and do anything to get themselves an advantage, albeit a short term advantage. And when you see that western elite thinking is very short term based, it makes sense why their capitalist society is self eating and unsustainable, why medicines are designed for profit extraction, why their want to enslave thier own citizens into debt bondage and serfdom via mortgage repayments which they can switch and change with a flick of an interest rate rise.

If not for China, i would not have known of there being an alternative way, a superior way of people to live in society; when China deflated their housing bubble, and will provide affordable housing and even decent accomodation for those who can afford it without breaking their own bank and sending their children into depression with testing pressure and coaching colleges, you can tell quite quickly which society is humane and which society is anti human. In fact, it should've been obvious even after the Opium Wars and colonisation, that despite western propaganda over the supposed cruelty of Chinese, that the British were starving irish because of 'free market capitalism' when a Chinese Confucian society was the most humane place in the world before the predation of the anglo-french. The fact that so many Chinese are returning to China, when so many taiwanese compatriots are seeing China with their own eyes to the point where the DPP has to censor even a computer game like Black Wukong, tells you the reality of 'cruel Chinese' and 'humane west'.
 
Last edited:

Tse

Junior Member
Registered Member
IMO ranks top 50 mistakes in history, maybe top 10. Capital would (iirc) have been moved to Xi'an without the rebellion. Significantly better geographical position.
Edit: now that I think about it, the move to Xi'an probably could never happen after the crown prince died. :(
I don't recall Xi'an being brought up at the time. Yongle moved the capital because when he staged the coup against Jianwen, it did it by taking command of all the Great Wall troops, and forming close relationships with many of the Mongol generals who joined the Ming when the Yuan collapsed. If he didn't move the capital to Beijing then someone else will probably pull the same trick as him again. Xi'an only makes sense in the context of the Silk Road and having a fertile agricultural valley with easily defended mountain passes, but from the Tang dynasty the main agricultural area had shifted to Jiangnan and the overland Silk Road was less and less important due to maritime technology. Also, during the Jin & Yuan dynasties the Grand Canal from Henan to Hebei had fallen into disrepair and replaced with the Jiangsu to Hebei Canal, so the capital couldn't even be in Henan which had become too isolated from the grain supply lines to keep an eye on the most crucial lifeline of the dynasty. Just to give you a picture of how important the Grand Canal is: when Zheng Chenggong counterattacked Nanjing in 1656, the Manchus almost decided to retreat to Manchuria because Beijing was going to starve to death without the Jiangnan grain supply.
 

4Runner

Junior Member
Registered Member
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

And this Grok "what is wrong with this article <above link>?":

Based on the information available up to September 10, 2024, and considering the general sentiment and critique around similar articles, there could be several points of contention or misunderstanding regarding an article like the one from Bloomberg about China's exports beating estimates:

  1. Economic Interpretation: Some analysts and commentators might argue that stronger export growth isn't necessarily a "bright spot" for China's economy. If domestic demand remains weak, as indicated by slow import growth or other economic indicators, this could mean that China's economy is overly reliant on exports, which isn't sustainable in the long term. This perspective sees export growth as a symptom of internal economic imbalances rather than a sign of health.
  2. Data Reliability: There's often skepticism about the accuracy of economic data coming out of China. Critics might question whether the export figures are inflated or if there's manipulation to meet targets or influence perceptions, especially in the context of global economic competition or internal political stability.
  3. Overemphasis on Exports: The article might be critiqued for focusing too much on exports as a measure of economic health. If domestic consumption, investment, and other sectors are not performing well, then the overall economic picture might not be as rosy as export figures suggest. This could be seen as a selective presentation of data to paint a more positive outlook.
  4. Global Trade Dynamics: The article might not adequately address the global context, like trade tensions, tariffs, or shifts in global supply chains. If China's exports are rising due to lower prices or devaluation of the yuan, this could be more about competitive devaluation or dumping rather than genuine economic strength.
  5. Long-term Sustainability: Critics might argue that the article fails to discuss the sustainability of this export growth. If it's driven by overcapacity in certain sectors (like steel or solar panels), it might lead to global oversupply, price wars, and ultimately, economic inefficiency or trade disputes.
  6. Environmental and Social Costs: An increase in exports, especially in manufacturing, might come at the cost of environmental degradation or social issues like labor conditions, which are often not covered in economic analyses but are crucial for a holistic view of economic health.
  7. Misinterpretation of Economic Indicators: If the article suggests that beating export estimates is a clear indicator of economic recovery or strength, it might be oversimplifying complex economic dynamics. For instance, high exports coupled with low imports might indicate a trade surplus, but if this surplus isn't reinvested domestically or leads to currency appreciation issues, it might not be beneficial.
  8. Political Context: Some might argue that such articles are framed to fit a narrative, either overly positive or negative, depending on geopolitical sentiments or economic rivalries. If the article doesn't critically analyze the political implications or motivations behind economic data, it could be seen as biased or lacking depth.

Given these points, critics might argue that while China's exports beating estimates might be a piece of good news, it should be viewed within a broader economic, political, and global trade context. The article could be seen as either overly optimistic or missing the forest for the trees by focusing on one metric without a comprehensive analysis of China's economic health.

If people and bots in US continue to misunderstand or twist the state of China economic dynamism, Americans have nobody to blame but themselves why they are surprised by now. From another angle, that also explains why those American "China hands" are so bottle-half-full as far as China is concerned.

Here is my random comment on this one data point. Given my native understanding of what is going on in China sine 2013, China economy is shifting toward self-sufficient export model away from import-processing export model, while it is still digesting the aftermath of the housing eco-system correction.

China's wealth effect comes from the housing boom for 2 decades, while US wealth effect comes from S&P 500. China finally pricked its own housing bubble and is swallowing bitter medicine to detoxicate its addition to land-oriented fiscal policy. What China is experiencing in weak consumer demands is exactly the direct consequence of this weakened wealth effect. This is the bad news for recent years as far as China economic growth is concerned.

What China has been trying to do during this housing struggle is to accelerate toward 4th industrial revolution and MIC 2025 guidelines. The current export boom is different from the past in that, under the current trade/tech war, the driving force is indigenous industrial advancement rather than third-party outsourcing. The implications of this shift are long-term and fundamental as far as economic eco-system is concerned.

The dual-circulation model has been pitched for a few years. It looks like the external circulation part is kicking in while the internal circulation part is still lukewarm. My guess is that it would take another 3-5 years for China to turn around the local fiscal policy adjustment.
 

Randomuser

Junior Member
Registered Member
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Westoids claim that HK law is too harsh etc. I would say its too weak given they let this guy off and it took Indian courts to finally deal with him.

Also next time you hearing Jai Hinds saying wewuz doctors, just remember you have all kinds of creeps like this guy becoming one. Guess having a high paid job won't take the Indian habits of you sometimes.
 

chgough34

Junior Member
Registered Member
Millions for disinformation and not a red cent for infrastructure…
The Infrastructure Invesmtnet and Jobs Act was literally a trillion+ dollars.

what’s more - the bill doesn’t actually spend anything. It is an authorization bill not an appropriations bill. An authorization bill simply sets the ceiling for what may be actually spent in an appropriations bill later
 
Last edited:

valysre

Junior Member
Registered Member
I don't recall Xi'an being brought up at the time. Yongle moved the capital because when he staged the coup against Jianwen, it did it by taking command of all the Great Wall troops, and forming close relationships with many of the Mongol generals who joined the Ming when the Yuan collapsed. If he didn't move the capital to Beijing then someone else will probably pull the same trick as him again. Xi'an only makes sense in the context of the Silk Road and having a fertile agricultural valley with easily defended mountain passes, but from the Tang dynasty the main agricultural area had shifted to Jiangnan and the overland Silk Road was less and less important due to maritime technology. Also, during the Jin & Yuan dynasties the Grand Canal from Henan to Hebei had fallen into disrepair and replaced with the Jiangsu to Hebei Canal, so the capital couldn't even be in Henan which had become too isolated from the grain supply lines to keep an eye on the most crucial lifeline of the dynasty. Just to give you a picture of how important the Grand Canal is: when Zheng Chenggong counterattacked Nanjing in 1656, the Manchus almost decided to retreat to Manchuria because Beijing was going to starve to death without the Jiangnan grain supply.
I think the substantial mention of architectural work in Xi'an indicates that the capital was to move to Xi'an under the crown prince (who I think died after returning from a tour of Xi'an).
Yeah, the move to Beijing was to return to his center of power.
If the capital had been moved to Xi'an, many of the later foreign attacks on the capital would not have been nearly as easy as they were with the capital in Beijing. That's really my reasoning for capital movement to Xi'an being preferable to movement to Beijing. At least Xi'an could feed itself.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
The Infrastructure Invesmtnet and Jobs Act was literally a trillion+ dollars.

what’s more - the bill doesn’t actually spend anything. It is an authorization bill not an appropriations bill. An authorization bill simply sets the ceiling for what may be actually spent in an appropriations bill later
Nice. I signed an authorization bill this morning for $5 trillion towards my lunch LOL
 

TK3600

Major
Registered Member
I think the substantial mention of architectural work in Xi'an indicates that the capital was to move to Xi'an under the crown prince (who I think died after returning from a tour of Xi'an).
Yeah, the move to Beijing was to return to his center of power.
If the capital had been moved to Xi'an, many of the later foreign attacks on the capital would not have been nearly as easy as they were with the capital in Beijing. That's really my reasoning for capital movement to Xi'an being preferable to movement to Beijing. At least Xi'an could feed itself.
IMO CPC should move capital from Beijing. Capital is meant to be a defensive administration center. It doesnt need much economy power. Just housing the government worker and feed them is enough. I get Beijing has symbolism, but so does xian. Xian is the perfect compromise between beijing(rich and easy target) and yan'an (extremely defendible)

There is no more eight nation alliance, but naval missiles will hit Beijing far easier than Xi'an. Ballistic missiles will go over many layers of defense to Xian. Not fool proof, but every missile wasted counts.

kinda like Moscow vs St.Petersberg
 

FairAndUnbiased

Brigadier
Registered Member
IMO CPC should move capital from Beijing. Capital is meant to be a defensive administration center. It doesnt need much economy power. Just housing the government worker and feed them is enough. I get Beijing has symbolism, but so does xian. Xian is the perfect compromise between beijing(rich and easy target) and yan'an (extremely defendible)

There is no more eight nation alliance, but naval missiles will hit Beijing far easier than Xi'an. Ballistic missiles will go over many layers of defense to Xian. Not fool proof, but every missile wasted counts.

kinda like Moscow vs St.Petersberg
Xi'an was historically at the front lines though it does make sense today.

Luoyang would be badass too.
 
Top