Minsk and Kiev
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now more talking about somebody's username...those days are gone and i seriously don't want to continue it here at the new forum. Let the posting speak for itself.
chinawhite
Banned Idiot
Minsk is already in use. sorry guys 
complete for MIG-33s and Q-5 attabk planes
complete for MIG-33s and Q-5 attabk planes
...i'm hoping there was a irony that i missed...You know that the Minsk is lately been held at display in china and it acted as amjusmentpark...and these pics clearly shows it...now please say that you where only joking...
chinawhite
Banned Idiot
notice the sacarism in my post.
*hint hint*
*hint hint*
thank god...you almoust friegten the old man to deaht.
But we are trying to make this new forum much more proffesional than the other so please no more these kind of jokes outside offtopic forum. And this aplyes to all and means all posting, in the old forum we where more tolerant to BS but that have been changed. So now onwards, if you don't have anything to say, then accept it and don't post nonsense or pointless chatting...there is no post race so you don't have to try and awnser to every topic regardless wheter you have anything to say or not.
But we are trying to make this new forum much more proffesional than the other so please no more these kind of jokes outside offtopic forum. And this aplyes to all and means all posting, in the old forum we where more tolerant to BS but that have been changed. So now onwards, if you don't have anything to say, then accept it and don't post nonsense or pointless chatting...there is no post race so you don't have to try and awnser to every topic regardless wheter you have anything to say or not.
chinawhite
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Gollevainen i posted the pictures because these people were asking what happened to the mirsk/could it be put into service.
i posted to show that the mirsk is now a museum. and already has a use
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i posted a image of the mirsk with a brightly coloured flight deck with obsolete aircraft and a whole bunch of tourist walking around. i thought people coud pick up what i was trying to say at first glance
i posted to show that the mirsk is now a museum. and already has a use
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i posted a image of the mirsk with a brightly coloured flight deck with obsolete aircraft and a whole bunch of tourist walking around. i thought people coud pick up what i was trying to say at first glance
well mayby i jumped bit too fast, but i'm given clear orders to try keep the level of discussion high, and i said most of the things to all, not spesificly to you.
PLABUDDY said:
From a naval point of view, the Varyag is an inefficient design. 78,000 tons and can only carry 1-2 squadrons of aircraft is a waste of steel. The USN Midway class weighs roughly the same displacement and can carry 70 aircraft, France's Charles de Gaulle, with 45,000 ton displacement, can carry up to 45 aircraft.
The main problem is that this ship was not designed as a carrier in the truest sense, but as a aircraft carrying missle cruiser. It was meant to defend the Soviet Union's SSBN bastions from the USN, not project power. It's airwing is for airdefense alone, with the 16 SS-N-19 Shipwreck missiles as its main anti-ship weapon.
My guess is that the PLAN is better off learning from its design and building a more efficient carrier. It is cheaper in the long run.
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