Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 is Missing

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chuck731

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T-U-P said:
You'd think that if the plane broke up at that altitude, they would've found some wreckage floating on the water by now. There are a lot of things in the plane that would float, and the area of impact would be huge if it broke up at 35000ft. People compare it to the Air France accident, but that Air France plane crashed in the middle of Atlantic in bad weather. The weather here was perfect, and the gulf here is like a bathtub compared to the Atlantic.
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Air France flight 441 maintained telemetry with the parent airline all the way to the point when the plane hit the water. So its point of impact could rapidly be narrowed down.

As far as we know, the telemetry and communication with Indonesian airline did not continue to the moment of impact. Everyone seem to assume where the plane crashed is known based only on the two non definitive oil slicks found off the coast of Vietnam. But that may be an false assumption. If the plane flew on an unknown heading only 20 minutes after the last known position, it could be anywhere within a one sixth of a million square miles, or size of France. If it flew for one hour, it could anywhere within an area almost the size of china.

So unless one could pin the point of impact down ahead of time, If there are no witnesses to the impact, I would not be surprised if it takes days or even weeks to find the first wreckage.
 
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chuck731

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Lezt said:
I believe... that Chinese media was saying that MAS370 had a collision with a China Eastern flight in Shanghia Pudong Airport.... but was fixed... some years before.
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It was classified as a minor collision. The cost of repair was less than $1 million and less than the deductible on the airline's insurance policy.
 
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delft

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SteelBird said:
Please cease your political argument, guys.

As reported, there are two persons boarding the plane with stolen passports. I can't stop questioning, who on earth and with what purpose would sneak into China? This is not the United States nor it is Australia. If the stolen passport story is true, the only possibility is that two persons are terrorists. So, let me assume it this way: Two terrorists boarded the plane without weapon. When the plane was on the sea after 40 minutes of flight, the terrorists took over control of the plane which explain why no May Day, no error report. The plane didn't crashed where it lost contact with ground control. However, the plane has ELT device that would transmit its location in case of emergency. The terrorists knew this, so they disabled the device. The terrorists steered the plane away from its route and crashed it.
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There seems to be no reason to be able to stop the aircraft sending technical information, especially altitude, speed, heading, position, functioning of engines, ect.
 
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A.Man said:
The United States needs to stop supporting those voilent anti-China orgonizations. The US should not use double standard policies against China.
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Stop the accusations and get back to the missing plane.
 
Blackstone

Blackstone

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kroko said:
It appears that the two passagers that traveled with stolen passports bought their tickets together.

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According to a CNN news clip, criminals in Europe routinely use stolen or forged documents to travel around in EU countries, so the two men might just be criminals and not connected to the missing flight.
 
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Wall Street Journal said:
A Vietnamese search aircraft located fragments Sunday floating in waters off southern Vietnam that are suspected of coming from the jetliner that went missing a day earlier with 239 people on board.

The fragments were believed to be a composite inner door and a piece of the tail, Vietnam's ministry of information and communication said in a posting on its website. They were located about 50 miles south-southwest of Tho Chu island.

Officials released photograph of one fragment floating in the water. Malaysia Airlines said it had received no confirmation regarding the suspected debris.

Flight MH370 went missing early Saturday on a flight from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, to Beijing and ships and planes scouring the waters had been unable to find it. Vietnam said earlier in the day that a Singaporean aircraft had found a yellow floating object south-southwest of Thu Chu and dispatched ships toward the area. Singapore has declined to comment.

The Vietnamese statement said that the aircraft could not land near the objects to investigate them further because of darkening conditions but would continue the identification process Monday morning.
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Video Flight Path of MH370:


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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 last position on Flight Radar Site

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Now the Vietnamese are saying the oil belt is at least 80KM long. If so, based on the cruising speed of the 777, it would've travelled for at least 5 minutes with mechanical problems. That means there's no major explosives on the plane, or else it would've dived into the ocean instantly, instead of gliding/flying for addition 5+ minutes.
 
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chuck731

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delft said:
There seems to be no reason to be able to stop the aircraft sending technical information, especially altitude, speed, heading, position, functioning of engines, ect.
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It seems to me if the plane was damaged but not shattered by a bomb, it may stop transmission, but is able to struggle for a while to remain in the air and cover considerable distance in the effort.
 
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chuck731

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Verum said:
Now the Vietnamese are saying the oil belt is at least 80KM long. If so, based on the cruising speed of the 777, it would've travelled for at least 5 minutes with mechanical problems. That means there's no major explosives on the plane, or else it would've dived into the ocean instantly, instead of gliding/flying for addition 5+ minutes.
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I don't think the oil slick traces the trajectory of the plane. If the plane was venting fuel as it goes it would be totally atomized by the air and would not have come down onto the sea in enough concentration to form a slick.

More likely the slick was initially concentrated around the point of impact and subsequently elongated by wind and wave.
 
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no_name

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delft said:
There seems to be no reason to be able to stop the aircraft sending technical information, especially altitude, speed, heading, position, functioning of engines, ect.
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Unless someone simply shuts down the engine and all power onboard, or some accident caused it to happen. Then plane would then probably glide some distance more before it crashed.
 
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