A 4 gold medal lead is hardly emphatic. And if we got our gold medals that were robbed from us, we would be well ahead of the US. Thanks to the china hating judges, US won. A tainted victory imo. If anything it shows how much we have improved that western judges have to discriminate against china in order for the US to even get close to china in the gold tally. Daylight robbery. Gymnastics, cycling, diving, boxing were some of the sports we were denied gold. If we got those we would be around 45 golds now.
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A 4 gold medal lead is hardly emphatic. And if we got our gold medals that were robbed from us, we would be well ahead of the US. Thanks to the china hating judges, US won. A tainted victory imo. If anything it shows how much we have improved that western judges have to discriminate against china in order for the US to even get close to china in the gold tally. Daylight robbery. Gymnastics, cycling, diving, boxing were some of the sports we were denied gold. If we got those we would be around 45 golds now.
cn_habs
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cn_habs
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Since medals are what China wants, she should keep investing and improving in the swimming pool where an athlete can possibly win more medals more than any other discipline.
Pure domination in both table tennis and badminton can only fetch you 9 gold medals whereas a top swimmer can easily win 2-5 golds alone. Usain Bolt can be the most dominant sprinter ever yet he only can only possibly win 3 golds. There's a reason that the top 5 athletes in medals are all swimmers. eg. Sun Yang has the most medals among Chinese athletes.
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bladerunner
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Emphatic in the sense it was right across the board; Gold and the others.
Im not sure about the boxing though as she was decked and had to take a standing count.Then theres the golds China was expected to win and didnt.
At least one in the shooting Hot Favourite)
Two in the Weight Lifting (Hot Favorite)
One in the womens Epee (Hot Favourite)
One In the Taekwando (Hot Favourite) She gave away the stupidest of fouls.)Plus a questionable Hit on the buzzer
One in the rowing(Favoured)
And to cap it off they withdrew their entrant in the mens individual after he qualified ( I dont know why yet) IMO the mens competion was only average and ,So he had a chance of medaling ... maybe gold
P.S. As I said in my other posts China has gone backwards in the rowing and kayaking canoeing events.events
Theres thirty gold medals to be won. China targeted this sport for the Beijing Olympics and going into the Beijing Olympics she had 6 world cup tiles, and for some reason she appears to have gone backwards since.She has proven herself to be capable of winning at least 6 of the 30 golds on offer.
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Mr T
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That's not very surprising, they usually get a lot of medals in wrestling and some in track & field.
First, there is no prize for topping the medal table - the US will/has won nothing. Second, you're not the only country that feels it has been hard done by at certain stages of the Olympics. Victoria Pendleton was shocked that she was disqualified in her last race for moving out of her racing line given that she felt Anna Mears had tried to barge her off the track. Even the Dutch complained about the fact their rider only came second in the individual dressage. Sometimes the chips don't fall the way you want them to. But I'd need to see some evidence that Chinese athletes ever only lost gold medals because judges "hate" China. Subjective commentary doesn't quite cut it.
I don't know what boxing match you're talking about, but Nicola Adams beat Ren Cancan quite fairly. The British boxer was definitely better.
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Quickie
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The rules are created differently for different events. Example, badmintion is the only event where you may have to fight against your teamates in the early non medal stage. One have to ask why this only happens in the badmintion event and not the other events like beach volleyball (2 American teams in the final), table tennis or tennis.
Well I agree we blew some gold medal chances in weightlifting and our women's gymnastics team was absolutely pathetic. We need to get better at swimming, you can enter 2 from one country in every discipline. With the emergence of Sun Yang and Ye Shiwen, I hope swimming becomes one of our major Olympics sports along with the 6 traditional sports (table tennis, badminton, diving, gymnastics, weightlifting, shooting).
I will still be happy if we get 40 gold medals. Getting 40 golds shows a great achievement and it took a near perfect performance from team USA to beat team China. We certainly didn't disgrace ourselves after Beijing. Maybe if we can get to 90 medals overall and 40 golds, i will be satisfied.
We can improve alot more in swimming and athletics to further close the gap with team USA.
plawolf
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Well the rules were specifically changed to prevent China from making a clean sweep of the medals as would be the case if they just set the system up as any other sport, where the players were seeded and drawn based on skill.
One of the most ridiculous part of the media coverage about the badminton players being DQed was the almost complete omission in reporting that the primary reason the Chinese pair tried to loose was because they did not want to face their compatriots in the next round.
All the other pairs were trying to loose because they did not want to be drawn against either of the Chinese pair, so they were trying to loose to get an easier draw, the Chinese pair were the top seeds and were not afraid of playing anyone. They didn't want to loose to face weaker opponents but rather to try to avoid having to knock out their team mates - because of the way the officials changed the draws.
However, in the reporting of the story, not only did the western media omit all but the barest minimum mention that other teams were also DQed and focus almost entirely on the Chinese pair, they also completely failed to report the real reason why the Chinese pair were trying to loose and instead imposed the reason the other teams were trying to loose on the Chinese pair.
The deeper you look into this, the worse it stinks.
Had the media reported the actual reason the players were trying to loose, I think there would have been far more public sympathy and understanding for why they did what they did. I am positive that had this happened to any western players, the media reporting would have focused on their 'noble intentions' and pinned the blame entirely on the officials for putting the players in that situation with such a badly thought out system.
The bias and double standards could not be demonstrated more clearly than with the ridiculous, baseless doping allegations made against Ye compared to the American teenager who won the 800m. Some pundits made claims that Ye 'came out of nowhere' out of ignorance that she had won the world championships the year before as justification for their baseless acquisitions, yet the American actually did come of nowhere, having never won anything of note before her Olympic gold.
Some are still harbouring 'suspicions' about Ye, while not one word has been said about the American teen other than to heap praise on her.
It is absolutely clear that the western media cannot be trusted to report the news fairly and objectively, nor can anyone expect any western government to ever impose any sort of professionalism or basic standards of competence on their media because of the power 'free' media hold over politicians in the west.
I think the only way things will improve is if China makes it costly for western media organisations to continue behaving the way they are.
I think China should set up a media accuracy agency and call journalists and their employers to task for inaccurate or biased reporting.
Reports should be made to own up to, and pay for their mistakes like everyone else.
If you made an error in one of your stories, you need to either issue a retraction and apology if it is minor. A fine will be issued if the error was significant or suspected of being intentional.
A strikes system should also be set up, whereby a journalist would have his credentials revoked if he made more than 3 serious errors in his reporting in a year, and the journalist would not be allowed to file any more stories until he/she has passed a competence test to earn back their reporter's credentials.
Maybe if China is successful in this programme, other countries will follow suit and issue their own set of rules and standards and the press finally gets cleaned up and made fair and competent again.
This is what Singapore did in the 1980s. Made the western media pay for their malicious reporting and force them to be more responsible.
RedMercury
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I think the Chinese Olympians did quite well, considering the hostile crowd, media, and officials they faced. Cheers to them.
As to all the scandal that happened during this Olympics, I think it will leave a large mark on Chinese public opinion. I for one believe this is the worst Olympics in recent history.
As to all the scandal that happened during this Olympics, I think it will leave a large mark on Chinese public opinion. I for one believe this is the worst Olympics in recent history.
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