Littoral Combat Ships (LCS)

Jeff Head

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Jeff, in the time you quote that Navy Officer included the time to move from one part of the Pacific to another ... seems to me
Sailing time from San Diego to Hawaii is a 4-5 day trip, depending on speed.

US Navy said:
Just six weeks ago, we were a mine countermeasure ship operating off the coast of California," Cdr Gagliano said. "We got the call that we needed to be here in a surface warfare role, so within a matter of a week, we had switched out our mission package from mine countermeasures to surface warfare, checked out the gear, and came over.

The quote indicates that they switched the mission pack in a week, then had to go out and test it before using it...which sounds like it took 2-3 weeks. Then they went from San Diego to Hawaii. That distance is 2500 miles. At 20 knots, which is 23 miles per hour, it would take about 115 hours, or five days.
 

Tako

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The littoral combat ship USS Coronado will get a chance at an historic LCS first this fall when it launches a surface to surface missile in tests off Southern California.
The US Navy confirmed this week that the Coronado is scheduled to test launch the Kongsberg Naval Strike Missile (NSM) off Point Mugu, California, where the Naval Air Warfare Center maintains an extensively instrumented missile range.
The test will follow a successful NSM launch July 10 from the Norwegian frigate Fridtjof Nansen during Rim of the Pacific (RIMPAC) exercises near Hawaii. The frigate fired a single NSM at the decommissioned amphibious ship Ogden and scored a direct hit.

"The planned September live firing demonstration aboard USS Coronado (LCS 4) of the Naval Strike Missile under the Foreign Comparative Testing Program will test the ship's feasibility to execute an increased anti surface warfare role," Lt. Kurt Larson, a spokesman with the Naval Sea Systems Command (NAVSEA) in Washington, said in a statement.
"Additionally, it will provide insights into the weapon's stated capabilities of increased range, survivability and lethality.
"While there is currently no requirement for this capability aboard LCS, we view the demonstration as an opportunity to test a possible future warfighting tool," Larson added.
For now, the US Navy is not committing to anything beyond the September tests.
"At this time, there are no further tests planned for the NSM or similar weapons," said Lt. Jackie Pau, a Navy spokesperson at the Pentagon.

"The demonstration is not to integrate it into the ship but to launch it, and to explore the concept of operations for launching a missile that can go far from an LCS," he explained, noting the LCS is not fitted with long range fire control systems.
"If I can shoot 100 miles, but I can't see a target at 100 miles, then that may or may not be the right missile for that ship," Ladner explained.
"If we can figure out how to solve the detect to engage sequence then that might be the right candidate."
But, he added, "maybe the right answer is a shorter range missile that goes closer to what the ship can detect organically. That is what the Navy is looking at right now to understand where we really want to go for this ship class."
Coronado's launch of the NSM will be the first ever firing of a surface to surface missile from an LCS, NAVSEA confirmed.
To date, only the first LCS, Freedom, has launched a missile. The ship fired a Rolling Airframe Missile (RAM), intended for close-in point defense, during a 2009 test and in fleet exercises in 2010.

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NSM will be a great addition to LCS, even better than the harpoons, and will increase LCS's striking range.
 
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Jeff Head

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The littoral combat ship USS Coronado will get a chance at an historic LCS first this fall when it launches a surface to surface missile in tests off Southern California.

The US Navy confirmed this week that the Coronado is scheduled to test launch the Kongsberg Naval Strike Missile (NSM) off Point Mugu, California, where the Naval Air Warfare Center maintains an extensively instrumented missile range.

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NSM will be a great addition to LCS, even better than the harpoons, and will increase LCS's striking range.
Though looking at those big missile canisters I feel that total number of NSM carried onboard an LCS will be less than that of Harpoons.
Exciting news.

The US Navy seems to be finally getting its think hat on with respect to LCS surface warfare capabilities.
 

Tako

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Hmm..
So Kongsberg did show some models of LCSs armed with 12 NSMs for Freedom class and 18 NSMs for Independence class.

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Meanwhile IMO, Fire control for these SSMs can possibly be provided by Fire Scout.
 

FORBIN

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Hmm..
So Kongsberg did show some models of LCSs armed with 12 NSMs for Freedom class and 18 NSMs for Independence class.

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Meanwhile IMO, Fire control for these SSMs can possibly be provided by Fire Scout.

A lot !!! :p

But it seems impossible with the current budget situation USN LCS are armed with as much misiles...
 
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Jeff Head

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Hmm..
So Kongsberg did show some models of LCSs armed with 12 NSMs for Freedom class and 18 NSMs for Independence class.

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Meanwhile IMO, Fire control for these SSMs can possibly be provided by Fire Scout.
There are numerous possibilities.

Fires Scout
Seahawks
P-8A Poseidon
MQ-4C Triton
UCAV (Whatever the X047B is ultimately called)
E-2D
etc.

I also believe that the LCS should get an upgraded surface sear radar with a longer range. These vessels need to be ASW and ASuW multi-role combatants with the sensor package to match.

Then let enhanced ASuW (ie swarming speed boats), MCM, and SpecOps be the mission modules. IMHO, it was terribly shortsighted not to make it that way from the get-go.
 
Exciting news.

The US Navy seems to be finally getting its think hat on with respect to LCS surface warfare capabilities.

Jeff (or anybody), I have a tough question for you, so first I better say I don't attack any warship -- as I'm located in the middle of Europe, I couldn't even if I wanted :) -- I found the most recent Report
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and the question is if there are weight allowances for significantly changing the armament of the USN LCS? I mean one could think of some additional weaponry to be added, but what's important is:

Status of Recent Littoral Combat Ship (LCS) Service Life Allowances

in that document, isn't it?
 
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