TerraN_EmpirE
Tyrant King
VL Asroc and Essm would be options for a VLS system. The Navy like it or not chose not to include such.
Littoral Combat Ships (LCS)
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Jura The idiot
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coupla points to consider:
- targeting (what radar, illuminator, ...) by vessels whose primary role is to get Marines ashore
- tracking (what volume-search radar etc.)
- CONOPS (would convoying be still needed for them IF ADDITIONAL BILLIONS WERE SPENT? yes/no under what threat level?)
I know it's a decision the navy will regret too if these junk piles ever see actuall combat against a peer or even near peer adversary
They will add what they need if they decide to place the missiles on the vessels. That's pretty clear.
But time will tell. It may all be whstling in the wind.
At least this admin and the military people in positions to make a difference are trying to do that in the face of what they were handed.
Jura The idiot
General
launching missiles (other than RAM/SeaRAM) is not the task of an ARG, it should be the task of its escort (which could be frigates if the USN had any)
The San Antonios were designed to have VLS (16 cells), but were not fitted with them. The idea was to put ESSM onboard for self defense. Given the increase speed the newer missiles have or are going to have, the SA's probably do need the ESSM for as a bare minimum.
Jura The idiot
General
the main issues would be EDIT if there was such a thing as an LPD with ESSMs; there's no such a program of record
- sensors and
- CONOPs
a VLS here on there is an issue of LCSs which are unarmed even by standards of what Egypt (GOWINDs), Indonesia (SIGMAs), ... I could go up with armament ..., are getting in a similar displacement category
that's how the USN will be for the rest of the first half of this century, based on its own doctrine
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Jura The idiot
General
thought I wouldn't post about the game-changers anymore, but changed my mind after noticing inside
Navy Set to Restart LCS Deployments this Year, Despite Challenges in Manning, Training
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Commander of Naval Surface Forces Vice Adm. Richard Brown told reporters on Friday ...
“We are very excited about that because the naval component commanders are screaming for LCSs because they know what they’re going to bring to the fight.”
let me see again,
the Pentagon very excited (it always is)
as commanders are screaming for LCSs (I've been screaming against LCSs so I must be wrong)
and commanders know what LCSs bring to the fight ... which is:
Navy Set to Restart LCS Deployments this Year, Despite Challenges in Manning, Training
:
Commander of Naval Surface Forces Vice Adm. Richard Brown told reporters on Friday ...
“We are very excited about that because the naval component commanders are screaming for LCSs because they know what they’re going to bring to the fight.”
let me see again,
the Pentagon very excited (it always is)
as commanders are screaming for LCSs (I've been screaming against LCSs so I must be wrong)
and commanders know what LCSs bring to the fight ... which is:
One word NOTHING
Jura The idiot
General
quote
The ships were designed to perform single mission, and they’ll stick to that plan, Brown said. While he declined to offer specifics, it will likely involve crew training, partner operations, and fisheries enforcement, he said, though “that’s really up to the 7th Fleet commander.”
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