Ladakh Flash Point

Status
Not open for further replies.

ougoah

Brigadier
Registered Member
I have already posted an interview between Nitin ghokale and S Dinnny, but I will post it again.
Snehesh Alex Phillip is a pretty well known defence journalist, search for him and you will find his articles. He has been reporting on the standoff and was one of the first to report on the disengagement deal in detail.

The first picture I posted shows a temporary Indian forward camp less than a km from pp14 which China claims, which is evidence of Indian patrols continuing there, at least before the winter. And India still has permanant camps in the valley.

I didn't ask for Dinny. I've watched that one. Dinny is like trusting PLA leakers rumors of capturing and killing over 100 IA and using microwave access denial weapons to push IA intrusions back.

I asked for those others and explained why I pay some attention to folks like Shukla and Sawhney etc because they have a far more balanced view and it isn't India has got everything, nothing is happening, all's good narratives.
 

Sardaukar20

Captain
Registered Member
Wrong.
Go through list again.

He was awarded Sena Medal (Gallantry) which is equivalent to silver star with v in US army.
And his award is two steps higher than MiDs.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
No need. I've lost count how many times I've went through it.

Let me save everyone's time here. Let's go into your link:
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Step 1: Look into document link #2:
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

You'll find this: FINAL AWARD RD 2021 TO BE ANNOUNCED ON 25 JAN 2021

Step 2: Open the PDF file. Use Ctrl+F to find any keyword from: IC-83988P CAPT SOIBA MANINGBA RANGNAMEI
Let's see what we have here:

MiD 1.jpg

MiD 2.jpg
Only found one match. Page 9, #26 under MENTION-IN-DESPATCHES
:oops::oops:

This is too easy! Your own Indian Army document is disproving your own lie! :eek:o_O
OMG, how much more pathetic can one get? LOL!
 

Attachments

  • FINAL AWARD RD 2021 TO BE ANNOUNCED ON 25 JAN 2021.pdf
    161.9 KB · Views: 3
Last edited:

Nobonita Barua

Senior Member
Registered Member
after initial clashes both sides were trying to beat each other with greater numbers also there are videos of chinese soldiers more in numbers pushing indian soldiers back.
You mean rest ran away faster?
i think chinese technology/drones sci-fi gadgets failed to locate large no. of advancing IA.
That's a possibility. there are good chance internal electronics can shut down sensing the odor of your indian "jawan" apes.
Blaming IA for attacking PLA is wrong after PLA did same to IA initially.
PLA attacked IA. That's what armies do.
IA attacked patrol party. That's what cow-ards do :cool::cool:
we know chinese army awarded 4 soldiers but my question is what is the number of soldiers not awarded any medals??
Zero. China doesn't award medals for running away & pressing "eject" button :cool::cool:
 

Sardaukar20

Captain
Registered Member
shamed by china for what r? he broke skull of PLA officer wide open and that is shameful thing for PLA not Indian army.
Indian media 8 months of lies:
"The PLA shamefully ambushed our Jawans."

Truth:
Indian Army Jawans shamefully ambushed a PLA negotiating party.
When the PLA brought their brawlers to the fight. The Indian Army Jawans were routed. Double the shame.
Most of the dead Jawans died trying to flee. Triple the shame.
Then the Indian Army award these Jawans. Quadruple the shame!

For shameless fools like you. Anything about India is never a shame. But in the real world. Only the truth matters. Not your BS opinion.
 

tch1972

Junior Member
Wrong.
Go through list again.

He was awarded Sena Medal (Gallantry) which is equivalent to silver star with v in US army.
And his award is two steps higher than MiDs.

Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
I think the benchmark of IA is rather low in giving out bravery award. I mean what extraordinary accomplishment did that captain did? Sorry i don't think leading the charge against an unarmed soldier and under strength platoon as anything extraordinary by any military standard.

Perhaps the IA can better give detail of what he did during the actual fight at night. How did he manage to escape or lead his men out of danger. Or was he one of the officers capture during the confrontations?
 

siegecrossbow

General
Staff member
Super Moderator
Nah, if there was anything remotely untoward about those deaths, you can bet your bottom dollar the Indians would be crying about it because as much as they love to play war god, they also love to play the victim card.

It is possible that kill orders were played on them, whereby lethal force was specifically authorised for them, but it seems highly unlikely given the actual conditions (just watch the video, you will be hard pressed to recognise anyone even if they were right in your face).

Even Seals and other elite special forces carry photographs of HVTs to confirm identity of kills, and they would be been mission prepped on who they were going after. And it is asking a lot even for Chinese organisation capabilities to have identified the ringleaders of the Indians and made every soldier in the reinforcement group memories the faces of HVTs with kill orders while they were rushing towards the front with all due haste.

I see nothing wrong with the official Chinese version of events in that the Indian CO and his command staff led the charge like they were starring in a bad Bollywood movie expecting to steamroll the PLA lines, but instead got instantly yeeted to the afterlife since PLA reinforcements would have been briefed on what the Indians had done and would have had revised ROEs and so were in no mood to play nice like they were previously forced to.

That immediately broke the moral of the Indians and they fled so fast and so hard they killed the rest themselves in the process.

Had they stayed and fought, I think the PLA would have for sure killed a lot more. But I think the PLA would not have expected them to flee so pathetically, and were probably worried it was a trap so didn’t rush to pursue immediately.

The worst mistake of the Indian media was that the tried to play both simultaneously for Galwan.
 

ougoah

Brigadier
Registered Member
You saw video of IA trying to save PLA soldiers after giving nice thrashing and a captured PLA Vehicle?
I say IA showing dominance over PLA l.

Stop lying. IA "capturing" PLA vehicle means an IA crowd uselessly beating the vehicle with their iron bars. The PLA inside stuck around like those IA iron bar smashes were nothing, and they were.

They stuck around to try and see how the PLA communciation officer was being treated. Exiting the vehicle was suicide - like walking into a den of violent chimps on heat. So they didn't. They slowly backed away probably when commanded to and when they knew there was nothing they could do without lethal force to save their comrade. There is no valiant virtue in murdering defenceless, unprepared, comms officers who went out to talk. It doesn't take bravery or skills.

You know what does take bravery and skills? Capturing over 40 Indian army jawans with zero of your own men captured. The Indians were in numbers over a hundred, armed and geared up. That was more than a fair fight and the Chinese went in without using any capability dominance and still handed your asses back to you. With drones and tech in a real fight, the IA doesn't stand 20 mins.
 

ougoah

Brigadier
Registered Member
@Kakyan @twineedle check out your fellow IT Cell troll. Explain how this vehicle was captured? Was it announced and paraded as if it is captured? Was it ever even mentioned by already fraudulent Indian media that the Indians ever captured a PLA vehicle in 2020?

This vehicle wasn't captured and this only shows Indians are full of shit for calling it as if it is. The full video shows the vehicle reversing slowly once the people inside were probably commanded to get out of there. Just be grateful the PLA didn't command the occupants to waste these baboons. Baboon sticks and Jai Hind cries are not actually effective in disabling or capturing a vehicle. For that, you need some semi-respectable military capability lol.

more Indians lies as usual. Feels like lies out of desperation as well since these new lies are so hilariously easy to debunk.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top