Ladakh Flash Point

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twineedle said:
Lol satellite images show any territory China "gained" is now vacated
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I am afraid you cannot capture territory while retreating at the same time.

China was forced to except a buffer zone in territory it occupied and patrolled. That is exactly what india wanted to acheive. As a result, Status quo ante restored with the bonus of India securing its strategic infrastructure in Depsang and Galwan.
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1. The main cause of this conflict is because India intruded China's perception of LAC line at Galwan Valley
2. Some of China's PLA soldiers were martyred, China got its revenge and many more India soldiers were killed, and as a bonus punishment China moved forward to finger 4 at Pangong Tso and threatened more India's territory if India doesn't behave.
3. Since China already achieved its objective at Galwan Valley, stopping India's intruders, now moving back from finger 4 is reasonable. China move back from forward position and India now can not even go beyond finger 3, it is a fait accompli that India lost the territory, India accept to respect the China perception of LAC line.

From the current conflict:
What China gain:
- India is humiliated by needed to respect China's perception of LAC line, India can not enforce its claim to take back its claimed territory
- The world now know that India mostly consist of fake news propaganda media

What China lost:
- 4 martyr and few injured soldiers

Hopefully this will create a long lasting buffer area that follow China's perception of LAC line. China secure its border once for all with India around this area.
 
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siegecrossbow said:
At this point I actually think that releasing the captive videos will not only expedite the disengagement talks but calm the netizens in China.
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Calming the netizens ought not be an aim even. The sad reality is that Chinese aren't aware of the depth of malice harbored by those on the other side of Himalayas.

China has a consistent narrative. It has the media materials to back them up. Despite the attempts of "some " pro-India Jai-hinds to twist the events into something favorable for India, the Ladakh clash and its immediate aftermath, as it stands right now, is slightly positive.

Being able to counter the compulsions of a right wing Alt-nazi India is important and a "calmed" Chinese populace won't help.

As long as this place is in China, expect no respite from Indian aggression under the right wing Alt-nazi leadership.
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jfy1155 said:
Do you know if many on Chinese social media are calling for pictures or videos?
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Only the hard core military fans who have experienced the BS first hand on Twitter and YouTube comments. Average Chinese netizen is angry and know that Indians were taken captive, but don’t know about the captive videos.

There are two varieties of captive videos. First is just Chinese soldiers dispersing low ranking Jawans. The second are interviews with captive officers who basically confessed to their crimes on camera.
 
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siegecrossbow said:
Only the hard core military fans who have experienced the BS first hand on Twitter and YouTube comments. Average Chinese netizen is angry and know that Indians were taken captive, but don’t know about the captive videos.

There are two varieties of captive videos. First is just Chinese soldiers dispersing low ranking Jawans. The second are interviews with captive officers who basically confessed to their crimes on camera.
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I certainly hope that the folks in charge are mulling over an unfiltered release of those videos. Do you of know any other details in these videos?
 
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Numbez said:
I certainly hope that the folks in charge are mulling over an unfiltered release of those videos. Do you of know any other details in these videos?
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Only other details I know is that each officer captured had his separate interview. There is also a much longer video chronicling the whole incident off limits to the public. It is available for internal viewing in the PLA and might’ve been mandatory for frontline troops and border patrol.

According to a recent webcast with someone from CCTV, there were two voices with regards to whether the casualties and videos should be released at the beginning of the conflict. The ones who believed that they should be released believe that it will give China positive exposure internationally (revealing that China’s version of the story is correct) and provide ammunition for Chinese media. The other side argued that doing so will rile up domestic sentiments in both China and India and make the negotiations difficult.
 
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