Ladakh Flash Point

Nobonita Barua said:

That camp isn't shown in the map?

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lgnxz said:

This whole standoff happened because you are intruding first, enough with the lies. The claim that china wants to go back to the 1959 line is also another gaslighting by your side as well. A lot has happened between 1959 and now, for example the 1959 line doesn't cover a lot of territory in south tibet for example. In 1962 war china also goes way beyond the 1959 line.

Indians and lying, name a better duo..

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twineedle said:

India was perfectly fine with pangong 4-8 being a buffer zone. Read what colonel Dinny wrote about that.

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twineedle said:

It was China that tried to forcefully occupy that by building infrastructure that is permanent in nature to try and gain an advantage over India in the region, but was forced to withdraw.

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twineedle said:

Even if that is not a complete Indian victory, I fail to see how that is a Chinese win.

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twineedle said:

Anyway, condolences to the families of the PLA soldiers who were killed in action. Expecially since the technically died for no reason, since pp14 was cleared as per the initial disengagement deal and India still has camps in the valley, as close as 500 meters from pp14, whereas China's 1959 claim line is at the Galwan mouth.

Oh, and so many people here conveniently forget that China initially claimed up to finger 2,which is why hteir initial disengagement proposal required India to vacate Dhan Singh Thapa.

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twineedle said:

Please pick a narrative and stick with it. Did evil Indians occupy Chinese territory, or did China capture 1000 sq km? both can't be true. And the international media is already debunking the second claim by showing evidence of Chinese withdrawal. In fact, Indian camps are currently much closer to point 14 than Chinese. And considering China's 1959 claim line lies at the Galwan mouth and makes the entire valley fall within China, it is technically India occupying hundreds of Chinese claimed territory, not vice versa

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twineedle said:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1281829922168659969

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Nobonita Barua said:

Thanks, our condolences to families of those unknown dead Indian soldiers who were buried in that frozen water too. Such a shame China took the fatality seriously & made the news public while Indians were Google searching " how many Chinese killed in galwan ".

I didn't get your galwan disengagement play. First you got thrashed & froze to death, now you have "camp" half kilometres away?

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twineedle said:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1281829922168659969

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twineedle said:

India was perfectly fine with pangong 4-8 being a buffer zone. Read what colonel Dinny wrote about that. It was China that tried to forcefully occupy that by building infrastructure that is permanent in nature to try and gain an advantage over India in the region, but was forced to withdraw. Even if that is not a complete Indian victory, I fail to see how that is a Chinese win.

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twineedle said:

PP 14 was a patrolling point that marked the end of the lac as per the 1992 agreement. India had never camped on the point, only patrolled up to it. But China decided the LAc was actually at the Galwan mouth, which is why they tried to occupy that point. The reason the melee started was because China set up an encampment on the point. Now that China disengaged, status quo ante has been restored, at the cost of dead soldiers on both sides.

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manqiangrexue said:

Indians fail at many things; don't sweat this one

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