Ladakh Flash Point

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twineedle

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So what does it mean? India doesn't have the strength to patrol it's own perceived territory but it wants to be recognized as shupa pawah? Lol.
Btw what's Indian position at galwan now?
He said the buffer zone benefits India.
As for Galwan, India has a camp about 500 meters from pp14, though patrolling ops have been limited in the winter.
 

lgnxz

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the buffer zone benefits India
The buffer zone actually includes territory that isn't claimed by china aka between finger 3 and finger 4. Finger 4 to 8 is a contested area. This is thus a not status quo, since you lose your uncontested zone into a buffer zone. But hey stick to your narrative that india always wins, honestly it's quite amusing how people here care so much about the opinions of people like you and kakyan.
 

twineedle

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Anyway, condolences to the families of the PLA soldiers who were killed in action. Expecially since the technically died for no reason, since pp14 was cleared as per the initial disengagement deal and India still has camps in the valley, as close as 500 meters from pp14, whereas China's 1959 claim line is at the Galwan mouth.

Oh, and so many people here conveniently forget that China initially claimed up to finger 2,which is why hteir initial disengagement proposal required India to vacate Dhan Singh Thapa.
 

manqiangrexue

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Please pick a narrative and stick with it. Did evil Indians occupy Chinese territory, or did China capture 1000 sq km? both can't be true.
That's really funny advice coming from an Indian. Go check out your own media. They're the whole reason why nobody knows what happened. It's quite clear that the narrative is that the foolish Indians were tricked by Trump to start trouble, attempted to steal Chinese territory, but got beaten back, losing lives and territory in their incompetence.
Anyway, condolences to the families of the PLA soldiers who were killed in action.
Chinese soldiers died defending their nation from a cowardly ambush, without which Indian troops can kill no one except themselves.
Expecially since the technically died for no reason,
Indians live for no reason.
 

twineedle

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That's really funny advice coming from an Indian. Go check out your own media. They're the whole reason why nobody knows what happened. It's quite clear that the narrative is that the foolish Indians were tricked by Trump to start trouble, attempted to steal Chinese territory, but got beaten back, losing lives and territory in their incompetence.

Chinese soldiers died defending their nation from a cowardly ambush, without which Indian troops can kill no one except themselves.

Indians live for no reason.
An yet Indian soldiers are east of China's 1959 claim line and enforcing the 1992 LAC a greed between India and China, that is shown on Google maps. This whole standoff happened becasue China wasn't satisfied with the 1992 agreement and wanted more, but didn't get anything.
 

manqiangrexue

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An yet Indian soldiers are east of China's 1959 claim line and enforcing the 1992 LAC a greed between India and China, that is shown on Google maps.
And yet nothing. Every word out of an Indian's mouth makes no sense. There are many things that I do not waste my time studying in regards to India and its claims because there are actually competent countries competing against China so I will not argue the details, but everything that is verifiable shows extreme Indian incompetence. It is not possible for such a force to achieve anything against China or to hold off an actual Chinese advance.
This whole standoff happened becasue China wasn't satisfied with the 1992 agreement and wanted more, but didn't get anything.
Verifiably incorrect. There is video evidence of Indians starting this conflict with a cowardly ambush only to end up being held off 300 style until the reinforcements came and Indians lost all composure fleeing (ironically to their deaths). As I said, everything that Indians claim is either verifiably wrong or mired in disinformation to the point where it is unverifiable.
 
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lgnxz

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This whole standoff happened because you are intruding first, enough with the lies. The claim that china wants to go back to the 1959 line is also another gaslighting by your side as well. A lot has happened between 1959 and now, for example the 1959 line doesn't cover a lot of territory in south tibet for example. In 1962 war china also goes way beyond the 1959 line.

Indians and lying, name a better duo..
 

twineedle

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Oo. I was waiting for you to drag this out. Didn't disappoint.
That American aircraft was forced to land in China and was let go later.

But you didn't address any major points as to
1. Why "Lt Gen" YK Joshi has to depend on foreign sources to know numbers of casualties.

2. Why India tries to patrol a region that it didn't patrol for 15 years and got blocked by a small Chinese force.

3. Why India getting humiliated on 27 February isn't bad because it used obsolete jets.

4. Why Pangong Tso is a complete win for India and lose for China when all this is happening on "Indian" territory.
India was perfectly fine with pangong 4-8 being a buffer zone. Read what colonel Dinny wrote about that. It was China that tried to forcefully occupy that by building infrastructure that is permanent in nature to try and gain an advantage over India in the region, but was forced to withdraw. Even if that is not a complete Indian victory, I fail to see how that is a Chinese win.
 

localizer

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I can see how they lost so many.

The PLA was in full melee gear and it probably wasn’t easy to run on that terrain.

Indians were probably faceplanting on those rocksz



@twineedle China gains nothing by pissing off India last year. Thus it was obviously a Modi move with Pompeo “assurances”.
 
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