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Needless to say, PLA got some serious lessons to learn.
- Why the top ranking officer at the front? Didn't PLA know superpower 2020 are undisciplined bunch? Had he died, wala, that would be biggest PLA joke for decades.
- Why hiding the casualty number till now, did they receive the full military honour that they deserve? Don't tell me they did. What would Chen's family think when people say the image was doctored and they are not allowed to say anything? What did all of this achieve? How coward is it to handle military routine like this? PLA really need to modernize its thinking, see enemy as they are, instead of daydreaming.

With all of these, anyone who think superpower 2020 would not come back again, raise your hand. Not to mention all the economic harm done to Chinese companies.

Any single-minded constraint can only be interpreted as weakness, with bigger price to pay down the line.
 
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I hate to say this. But the fact that China waited this long to reveal official casualty figures instead of last June suggests CCP was afraid of its own people's public opinion. Even when concerning territorial integrity, the central government still wanted rooms to maneuver. In light of recent uneven withdrawal, this show of weakness is probably going to embolden India further in the future.

Don't get me started on the use of 外军 in PLA Statement.:mad:
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If no one dies to India on the Western front in the next 10 years, then I will stop questioning PLA/CCP's decisions regarding this conflict.

Honestly they should've planned the counterattack better and prevented escape.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1272807264911372288

Again, they did release the day after, but then censored...
 
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longmarch said:
Needless to say, PLA got some serious lessons to learn.
- Why the top ranking officer at the front? Didn't PLA know superpower 2020 are undisciplined bunch? Had he died, wala, that would be biggest PLA joke for decades.
- Why hiding the casualty number till now, did they receive the full military honour that they deserve? Don't tell me they did. What would Chen's family think when people say the image was doctored and they are not allowed to say anything? What did all of this achieve? How coward is it to handle military routine like this? PLA really need to modernize its thinking, see enemy as they are, instead of daydreaming.

With all of these, anyone who think superpower 2020 would not come back again, raise your hand. Not to mention all the economic harm done to Chinese companies.

Any single-minded constraint can only be interpreted as weakness, with bigger price to pay down the line.
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I agree with everything you said. The detente happened because Joe Biden is no longer interested (at least openly) in direct confrontation with China like Trump did. Modi realized that he has lost his value, and it costs a lot of cash keeping troops stationed on the frontlines, which they need to due to poor infrastructure. Now they need foreign investment to prop up their economy it has been devastated by COVID, Farmer's Protests, etc. I won't be surprised if Chinese companies get suckered into deals with them though. Getting suckered into bad deals is their specialty.
 
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you can find your answer from the article
longmarch said:
Needless to say, PLA got some serious lessons to learn.
- Why the top ranking officer at the front? Didn't PLA know superpower 2020 are undisciplined bunch? Had he died, wala, that would be biggest PLA joke for decades.
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Out of respect to previous agreements and rituals, Qi Fabao, regimental commander of the Chinese military, went to negotiate with a few soldiers. However, the Indian military showed no sincerity and had already deployed more soldiers in an attempt to force the Chinese soldiers to concede.
longmarch said:
- Why hiding the casualty number till now, did they receive the full military honour that they deserve? Don't tell me they did. What would Chen's family think when people say the image was doctored and they are not allowed to say anything? What did all of this achieve? How coward is it to handle military routine like this? PLA really need to modernize its thinking, see enemy as they are, instead of daydreaming.
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The Central Military Commission awarded Qi Fabao, the regimental commander from the PLA Xinjiang Military Command, the title of "Hero regimental commander for defending the border," Chen Hongjun with "Hero to defend the border," and awarded first-class merit to Chen Xiangrong, Xiao Siyuan and Wang Zhuoran.
 
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stannislas said:
you can find your answer from the article

Out of respect to previous agreements and rituals, Qi Fabao, regimental commander of the Chinese military, went to negotiate with a few soldiers. However, the Indian military showed no sincerity and had already deployed more soldiers in an attempt to force the Chinese soldiers to concede.

The Central Military Commission awarded Qi Fabao, the regimental commander from the PLA Xinjiang Military Command, the title of "Hero regimental commander for defending the border," Chen Hongjun with "Hero to defend the border," and awarded first-class merit to Chen Xiangrong, Xiao Siyuan and Wang Zhuoran.
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On a lighter note, Mr. Qi was the leading man of this "Bollywood vs Real Life" meme video.

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longmarch said:
Needless to say, PLA got some serious lessons to learn.
- Why the top ranking officer at the front? Didn't PLA know superpower 2020 are undisciplined bunch? Had he died, wala, that would be biggest PLA joke for decades.
- Why hiding the casualty number till now, did they receive the full military honour that they deserve? Don't tell me they did. What would Chen's family think when people say the image was doctored and they are not allowed to say anything? What did all of this achieve? How coward is it to handle military routine like this? PLA really need to modernize its thinking, see enemy as they are, instead of daydreaming.

With all of these, anyone who think superpower 2020 would not come back again, raise your hand. Not to mention all the economic harm done to Chinese companies.

Any single-minded constraint can only be interpreted as weakness, with bigger price to pay down the line.
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I think CPC handed it mostly fine. Sure, if we get people fired up and that lead to 1962 2.0 in 2020 China would probably win and you and I could go onto Indian forums and shit talk them while enjoying all that weeping and gnashing of teeth, but then what? CPC has to aim for long term geopolitical win, not immediate emotional satisfaction. Who do you think has the most to gain if war erupts between China and India? Certainly not China.
 
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