Ladakh Flash Point

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Kakyan said:
Fake as fck.
India's LAC runs through Finger 8 not Khurnak fort.
Also China cannot patrol between Finger 4 and Finger 8 even though China built massive road tp Finger 4 in 1998. Which means China loss is bigger as building a road in that area 20 years back shows that the area was controlled by PLA then but now they cannot even patrol
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indian, go read the article from Bloomberg, you indians lost 50 square km of land in Pangon Tsao.

Also, China can patrol to Finger 4, it was just a pull back. You indians also pulled back to finger 3. Meaning that you indians already acknowledged China's LAC claim up to finger 4.

Go look up the LAC by both sides and see how far the Chinese have pushed it !!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1360958233574137860


Kakyan said:
Already blew this 1000 sq km claim out of water, as per official US govt LAC in Depsang anything east of the famous Y junction of depsang is on Chinese side. Same in Google earth too as well as Apple Maps. None of them have changed LAC Orientation in their maps in atleast 10 years

But even then, India keeps saying LAC in Depsang is 17 km east of Y junction just to maximalize it claims and gullible Pakistanis and Chinese on internet keep believing it just so they can say India lost 1000 sq km.

Here is NASA map which shows LAC is at Y junction and not 17 km east of Y junction as Indian media claims.

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What you provided is not a reference. It is just a mere image from ZOOM. It has ZERO creditability !!

The two references I provided are from Foreign Policy written by a senior indian analysist in New Delhi and Bloomberg, a credible western source !!

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Decisive Chinese Victory.
Decisive indian Defeat !

Jai Hind

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localizer

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JSL said:
indian, go read the article from Bloomberg, you indians lost 50 square km of land in Pangon Tsao.

Also, China can patrol to Finger 4, it was just a pull back. You indians also pulled back to finger 3. Meaning that you indians already acknowledged China's LAC claim up to finger 4.

Go look up the LAC by both sides and see how far the Chinese have pushed it !!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1360958233574137860




What you provided is not a reference. It is just a mere image from ZOOM. It has ZERO creditability !!

The two references I provided are from Foreign Policy written by a senior indian analysist in New Delhi and Bloomberg, a credible western source !!
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Lol let's not go there, no Western MSM source is credible on Chinese matters.
 
Nobonita Barua

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Kakyan said:
Already blew this 1000 sq km claim out of water, as per official US govt LAC in Depsang anything east of the famous Y junction of depsang is on Chinese side. Same in Google earth too as well as Apple Maps. None of them have changed LAC Orientation in their maps in atleast 10 years

But even then, India keeps saying LAC in Depsang is 17 km east of Y junction just to maximalize it claims and gullible Pakistanis and Chinese on internet keep believing it just so they can say India lost 1000 sq km.

Here is NASA map which shows LAC is at Y junction and not 17 km east of Y junction as Indian media claims.

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China smashed indians & took Tibet from lil indians , your experts are jumping up & down that you lost even more territory & the naive gullible cute indians who cant read a map are trying to win internet war by preaching how to win by losing?

Did US determine your map? Or your country is a joke without any map?
 
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localizer said:
Lol let's not go there, no Western MSM source is credible on Chinese matters.
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Well, since the indians like to quote their own sources and western sources.

I found the two reference for them and it showed that they got their butt kicked.

:D
 
Nobonita Barua

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Kakyan said:
Fake as fck.
India's LAC runs through Finger 8 not Khurnak fort.
Also China cannot patrol between Finger 4 and Finger 8 even though China built massive road tp Finger 4 in 1998. Which means China loss is bigger as building a road in that area 20 years back shows that the area was controlled by PLA then but now they cannot even patrol
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China built road in your "perceived" territory?

Then what your"jawans" were doing there?
 
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I like how through all of this, the only thing we hear from Chinese side is "both sides have agreed to disengage." That's it. Nothing else. All the alarm about "INDIA DEFEATED!" is coming from Indians themselves. Indian people need to be more confident. How can there be equitable exchange between China and India if Indians can only think of losing to China?
 
Xizor

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Kakyan said:
Already blew this 1000 sq km claim out of water, as per official US govt LAC in Depsang anything east of the famous Y junction of depsang is on Chinese side. Same in Google earth too as well as Apple Maps. None of them have changed LAC Orientation in their maps in atleast 10 years

But even then, India keeps saying LAC in Depsang is 17 km east of Y junction just to maximalize it claims and gullible Pakistanis and Chinese on internet keep believing it just so they can say India lost 1000 sq km.
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India isn't maximizing or minimizing its claims. Almost everyone knows that ultimately, officially, India claims all of Aksai Chin.

The " 1000 km lost " was first put forth by an Indian newspaper, NOT Chinese or Pakistanis. The 1000 km lost is simply China pushing its troops through the "no man's land" or buffer zone that is famously known as LAC. The LAC isn't clearly demarcated.

So, technically, India did lose 1000 sq km. If India claims they didn't lose it, then that means India is considering these regions as de facto part of China. You see the catch here?
 
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Kakyan said:
Fake as fck.
India's LAC runs through Finger 8 not Khurnak fort.
Also China cannot patrol between Finger 4 and Finger 8 even though China built massive road tp Finger 4 in 1998. Which means China loss is bigger as building a road in that area 20 years back shows that the area was controlled by PLA then but now they cannot even patrol
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You are arguing against that retired soldier. Better take your arguments to Twitter against him. AFAIK, he is not in this forum. Is he?

Its been discussed to a coma here, how the situation in North Pangong Tso isn't a win for China. But overall, it is indeed a win, for now.

Sure, it may change later.
 
eprash

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boytoy said:
I just don't understand this paragraph. You replied to my post so I guess you're responding to something I said. But, why do you bring up Tibet or the "Two Major Rivers"? Why would it be personal? I guess you're Indian?

You also seem to suggest that Arunachel is worthless land and is questioning why China is interested there. If Indians don't want Arunachel then return it to China. It makes things whole lot easier.
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Ringsword said:
I am afraid that NO deal with India is ever possible as this strident,irrational,hateful racist BJP gov't is stupidly stubborn as Congress-it's the Indian nature- and even this apparent victory for China-Depsang Plains Hot Springs etc will only be another problem.Being subjugated to Muslims for 800 years and 200 to Britain?no problem but to the Ch#inkis no way!!!!-it's apparent as psychologically the Indians have imbibed the arrogant hateful racism of the Anglos yet without ANY of their competence-like preindependence Koreans/Taiwanese who sought to ape and impress their Imperial Japanese masters by being even more brutal and vicious.But Modi has shown his hand way too early/incompetently and hoping to trigger a hot war with China AND thereby securing Trump/Pompeo political ,materiel support,destroying RCEP-EU/China trade accord,and playing the "spoiler" for China's rise- the idiot Indians hoping to be the new slave-sepoy of the new Quad and riches loot,status and acclaim will be heaped upon Modi by the Aryan masters.......instead after 50 + incursions admitted by VK Singh the Indians got beaten to death,captured and humiliated by the score.If anything when the Sh#t hits the fan after the REAL facts about the disengagement is out new border troubles might arise (see twitter by various Indian not Chinese posters)as China is dealing with a people /govt of India that's horribly passive aggressive and doesn't have the maturity and discipline to move forward-to their OWN benefit-and secure a int'l border with China.So let India bleed money treasure and confidence in a conflict Modi has already lost and Modi has stupidly put India into China's crosshairs even more.
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I'm afraid there is a snowballing effect in this forum and it's getting to the level of Indian ones the criticism aganist indian leadeship and right wing populace are indeed based on facts and justifiable but bashing India seems to get easy likes and new members are seeing it as a way for peer approval, We should probably stay away from that sort of circle jerk unless this thread want to devolve into another Bharat Rakshak
 
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