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discspinner

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Indians fantasizing over these maps:View attachment 61266
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This may seem like a joke, but it probably defines India's long term strategy vis a vis China. India doesn't want to sign a border treaty with China because India does not believe it should HAVE a border with China. It is waiting for the next cycle in China's dynastic rise and fall, at which point it will take advantage. However, China is probably playing the same game. After all, how much longer will Kashmir as well as the 'chinkies' living in the 'India' past the Chicken's Neck put up with the failed state that is Indian 'democracy.'

Which is more likely?
 
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Wait, I’m confused. In the top map, where did they get the ideas of these names, like yuyencia or komeseland? What do they actual mean? Did they just dream them up?
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It's just a wet dream and for laughing only, whatever they name it, who care? IF I am to make such a dream, I would cut India into two pieces at the chicken neck and create a Indo-Balango whatsoever nation out of the northeastern India.
 
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I was looking at the Indian defence forum and they are posting about 1967 clash video. I guess is to boost their morale up.
 
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I don't have an account to the Indian defence forum to post up a picture about the 1967 clash. Why they go to the Chinese side to pick up their dead bodies?1967indianscarrybodies.jpg
 
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discspinner said:
This may seem like a joke, but it probably defines India's long term strategy vis a vis China. India doesn't want to sign a border treaty with China because India does not believe it should HAVE a border with China. It is waiting for the next cycle in China's dynastic rise and fall, at which point it will take advantage. However, China is probably playing the same game. After all, how much longer will Kashmir as well as the 'chinkies' living in the 'India' past the Chicken's Neck put up with the failed state that is Indian 'democracy.'

Which is more likely?
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That's a pretty stupid strategy especially when one compares how well Chinese dynasties have performed and lasted compared to Indian ones in the past 500 years, India is more likely to implode to that effect.
 
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This isn't some random Indian guy spouting his mouth. This is a senior Indian politician in the BJP basically saying that war is inevitable.

Here's why the LAC issue won't lead to a permanent border treaty:
1. India will have to relinquish its claim to the entirety of Aksai Chin if it settles the border at the LAC.
2. India does not want to relinquish its claim to Aksai Chin because...
3. India knows China will obviously not give up Aksai Chin since National Highway G219 runs right through, amongst other reasons such as it has been under Chinese control since the 1950s which is consistent with the fact that...
4. India does not actually want to settle a border treaty with China since it is hoping to facilitate an independent Tibet at some point in the future.

To be honest, I am not so sure that China (Xi Jinping) is not also goading India into starting a war with China because:
5. There will not be any border treaty signed in the near (or distant) future without a change in Indian psyche (hmm), and so
6. China will continue to have a un-demarcated border with an India that is eyeing for its chance in Tibet, unless
7. somehow internal unrest within India allows independent Northeast and Kashmir to occur, but that is unlikely because India does have a large military and ability to suppress 'ethinic' minorities such as 'muslims' and 'chinkies' without electoral repercussions.
8. COVID 19 has presented a once in a century opportunity

This is what I've been getting at all along in my posts:
8. By placing the decision for escalation in India's hands, China is almost daring India to start a war, which China would rather not fight, but also would not mind fighting, in order to settle an issue that would otherwise have no near term resolution and would continue to a thorn in China's back as it seeks to further expand its global ambitions.
 
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localizer

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discspinner said:

This isn't some random Indian guy spouting his mouth. This is a senior Indian politician in the BJP basically saying that war is inevitable.

Here's why the LAC issue won't lead to a permanent border treaty:
1. India will have to relinquish its claim to the entirety of Aksai Chin if it settles the border at the LAC.
2. India does not want to relinquish its claim to Aksai Chin because...
3. India knows China will obviously not give up Aksai Chin since National Highway G219 runs right through, amongst other reasons such as it has been under Chinese control since the 1950s which is consistent with the fact that...
4. India does not actually want to settle a border treaty with China since it is hoping to facilitate an independent Tibet at some point in the future.

To be honest, I am not so sure that China (Xi Jinping) is not also goading India into starting a war with China because:
5. There will not be any border treaty signed in the near (or distant) future without a change in Indian psyche (hmm), and so
6. China will continue to have a un-demarcated border with an India that is eyeing for its chance in Tibet, unless
7. somehow internal unrest within India allows independent Northeast and Kashmir to occur, but that is unlikely because India does have a large military and ability to suppress 'ethinic' minorities such as 'muslims' and 'chinkies' without electoral repercussions.
8. COVID 19 has presented a once in a century opportunity

This is what I've been getting at all along in my posts:
8. By placing the decision for escalation in India's hands, China is almost daring India to start a war, which China would rather not fight, but also would not mind finding, in order to settle an issue that would otherwise have no near term resolution and would continue to a thorn in China's back as it seeks to further expand its global ambitions.
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Don't take Swamy too seriously, I remember this:

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