Ladakh Flash Point
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Probably the dumbest maps I've ever seen ... why don't they choose these maps to represent China instead if they're going to cherry pick history.
India wants an independent Tibet. That’s their real long term objective.
But that is impossible because China will use Nukes to defend Tibet. Simple as that.
But that is impossible because China will use Nukes to defend Tibet. Simple as that.
If that was the Indian endgame, there's no real reason then to stop China from just shattering India into independent states if push came to shove.
They will not use nukes,since that is just unnecessary.
Looking from India's perspective I can understand its urgency. China effectively controls the entire Tibetan plateau highlands except for IOK. It would be akin to encountering fortress clusters on top of a cliff side but it's situated right next to your heartland while being thousands of km from China's heartland. This creates a permanent siege emplacement in favour of China.
To mitigate the dangers of this situation, India would seek to increase its footholds on the highland, plug choke points and avoid spreading resources too thin along the front(s).
A straight line path from which is located north of Uttarakhand state and south of G219 highway to downtown New Delhi is less than 400km. This would put the capital within the range of many mobile land based weapons in China's arsenal, such as WS-2D, SY-400, DF-15, etc. The geography makes counter battery difficult without achieving air superiority over the north side of the Himalayas. Guided weapons can disguise their launch location and unguided ones can be relocated.
India for a while was reluctant to build transport infrastructure along the frontier to prevent it being a double edge sword to be used against it in case China gained the upper hand in a potential conflict. Some of that has changed during the Doklam standoff. Doklam applies pressure to a sensitive point for India, the Siliguri corridor. A sole 20-25km wide corridor connecting mainland India to the North East, containing one highway and a few local roads. Logistics are under threat. A drive from Doklam to Siliguri is 160km (including winding roads) with an estimated drive time of 6 hours. A straight line path is about 90km from the Doklam plateau, putting the corridor within range of most of China's MLR systems and can be effectively be mined remotely and roadways disabled from guided munitions.
Another vulnerability of the Siliguri corridor is being flanked by Bangladesh and Nepal on both sides. Having friendly relations with these neighbours would be essential for security of the corridor.
Positions on Doklam can literally see Bangladesh (100km) and the Siliguri corridor (90km). It is the last high ground before the Ganges plain. South Asia is within visual distance of the PLA. North East India is at risk of being isolated in case of a major conflict. Isolation could result in independence of the region from India and logistics for commerce facilitated through Bangladesh and China (using infrastructure built by India to prepare for conflict). This will create new buffer state(s) between India and China, enabling concentration on the Western Tibet front, furthering the distance from the Chinese heartland and increasing strategic depth. The long term strategic implication is the possibility of introducing China as a major South Asian/Indo-Pacific power, facilitating close ties between China, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan and North Eastern states.
I don't have a viable solution for India as of current. Just want to illustrate the situation I think India is facing.
To mitigate the dangers of this situation, India would seek to increase its footholds on the highland, plug choke points and avoid spreading resources too thin along the front(s).
A straight line path from which is located north of Uttarakhand state and south of G219 highway to downtown New Delhi is less than 400km. This would put the capital within the range of many mobile land based weapons in China's arsenal, such as WS-2D, SY-400, DF-15, etc. The geography makes counter battery difficult without achieving air superiority over the north side of the Himalayas. Guided weapons can disguise their launch location and unguided ones can be relocated.
India for a while was reluctant to build transport infrastructure along the frontier to prevent it being a double edge sword to be used against it in case China gained the upper hand in a potential conflict. Some of that has changed during the Doklam standoff. Doklam applies pressure to a sensitive point for India, the Siliguri corridor. A sole 20-25km wide corridor connecting mainland India to the North East, containing one highway and a few local roads. Logistics are under threat. A drive from Doklam to Siliguri is 160km (including winding roads) with an estimated drive time of 6 hours. A straight line path is about 90km from the Doklam plateau, putting the corridor within range of most of China's MLR systems and can be effectively be mined remotely and roadways disabled from guided munitions.
Another vulnerability of the Siliguri corridor is being flanked by Bangladesh and Nepal on both sides. Having friendly relations with these neighbours would be essential for security of the corridor.
Positions on Doklam can literally see Bangladesh (100km) and the Siliguri corridor (90km). It is the last high ground before the Ganges plain. South Asia is within visual distance of the PLA. North East India is at risk of being isolated in case of a major conflict. Isolation could result in independence of the region from India and logistics for commerce facilitated through Bangladesh and China (using infrastructure built by India to prepare for conflict). This will create new buffer state(s) between India and China, enabling concentration on the Western Tibet front, furthering the distance from the Chinese heartland and increasing strategic depth. The long term strategic implication is the possibility of introducing China as a major South Asian/Indo-Pacific power, facilitating close ties between China, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan and North Eastern states.
I don't have a viable solution for India as of current. Just want to illustrate the situation I think India is facing.
it’s a pretty obvious long term dream of India.
Can you circle where was the 2017 stand off in Doklam?
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