Ladakh Flash Point

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Sardaukar20

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Calm down, no need to be confrontational.
What you are pointing out does not support your point nor your narrative:
1. GM is a company. Like I said, companies are always on path for growth and expansion. They will have to expand to underdeveloped areas whether there is an India hype or not, that's just the nature of capitalism. It's not like corporations never think about expansion into new market until one new market is under a government that does all the PR to lure them in. And it is also true that a lot of their ventures will turn out unsuccessful. You will learn this as soon as you learn business history.

2. So what? Everyone knows it is scam. Business scams happens in all countries, how does that support your point that "major countries including the West, China and Russia are fooled and scammed by India"? Which major country bought into Jio 5G?

3. Sure, but what's your point? Government needs to do things, whether there is any room for them to do anything meaningful or not. This still does NOT support your point that India fooled the rest of the world by their "Make in India". If you read enough history, you will know that there are no shortage of similarly ambitious, hyped-up but eventually fruitless political campaigns in human history. This is common in politics.

4. Don't be an infant by throwing that "Cold War" term around, especially with capital letters. This is juvenile behavior. Do you even know what the Cold War is? Ladakh is nothing to China. China didn't even mobilize much of her second line forces in Western Theatre Command. This is nothing. How on earth does this constitute a "Cold War"?

5. This is confusing point you are making. Covid-19 spread widely in India just like how everyone expected. Western countries have always been saying that India will have a huge pandemic, long before India's numbers actually surged. How on earth does this support your narrative that India "fooled the world"?

If you believe the whole narrative that India fooled the entire world, you would have already been brainwashed by Western propaganda. Because it is the same kind that kept on insisting that they "made China great by trading with China“, hence pretending to do this whole "decoupling with China" thing, that is obviously a hoax.

Because capitalism is always on a outreach for expansion, Western capitals have always wanted to enter China (as well as all other markets they don't have access to). The "改革开放" and the US-China normalization of relationship is only an event that allowed the Western capitals to pour in. But your logic, China also wooed the Western capital in. The only difference is that China delivered (to be precise, there have been a handful of very difficult economic situations in China since1980, the sustain high growth on happened after 2000) while India did not, looking back from today.

One way the Western propaganda works is by passing foundational ideas as a priori "truth" in subtlety. This is more powerful than direct brainwashing. Because people subject to these would think that they came up with those thoughts themselves. While in reality, the ideas and thoughts base upon which they came up with their thoughts are not theirs. This is the problem I have with your narrative.

Your narrative first assume that nations/countries are the exact same creatures as individual human beings. They are NOT. You have to first understands how nations/countries work before you use such infantile terms as "trustworthiness". This term contains the motivation to fool voters into thinking that any negative impact of their government's miscalculation and lack of competitiveness if not their own fault/shortcoming, but the fault of their opponents being "untrustworthy". The thing is, diplomacy and realpolitik NEVER work upon "trustworthiness", they work upon "predictability": it is not because one government trust another, but rather because they have a reliable enough mechanism of predicting the future actions of the other government to a certain quantifiable degree of accuracy.
Your write a long, boring essay that is actually just a merry go round of conjecture, conspiracy, and unrelated facts. Let me shorten all of it down to just two words: Pure nonsense! I will not be dragged into a debate of pure nonsense with you.

STOP NOW!
 

jimmyjames30x30

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Your write a long, boring essay that is actually just a merry go round of conjecture, conspiracy, and unrelated facts. Let me shorten all of it down to just two words: Pure nonsense! I will not be dragged into a debate of pure nonsense with you.

STOP NOW!

Again, you are doing nothing but smearing. What are you so confrontational? What can't you just calm down.
In what way is my words "conjecture, conspiracy, and unrelated facts"? Please elaborate. And do it calmly.
 

Xizor

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Wait.
India says that it has experience with high altitude cold weather operations. Siachen Glacier is often touted as an example.

So, are the troops being taken from the Glacier to Ladakh? Maybe they share equipments?

If those soldiers posted at Ladakh is from a different Brigade then how can India claim superiority in experience?

Its almost like Indian claims of Carrier operation superiority (operating an aged carrier with relatively small fighter complement of troubled Russian aircrafts).
 

localizer

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Wait.
India says that it has experience with high altitude cold weather operations. Siachen Glacier is often touted as an example.

So, are the troops being taken from the Glacier to Ladakh? Maybe they share equipments?

If those soldiers posted at Ladakh is from a different Brigade then how can India claim superiority in experience?

Its almost like Indian claims of Carrier operation superiority (operating an aged carrier with relatively small fighter complement of troubled Russian aircrafts).
 

Sardaukar20

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So Indian Army is going reality TV now? LOL!

To be fair, China and many other countries do it too. But there is something almost comedic about this Indian Army one. Maybe it looks more like winter camp than a real military training.

Nevertheless, better this and video games than actual war.
 

Deino

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Guys ... i have the feeling that a t least two of you are on a most confrontational way, you are debating very much off-topic and political stuff. I must admit, in case I need to check that thread, about 70% of posts need to be deleted but I have no time to check all that fuss ... so keep calm, stay civilised in your arguments without any personnel insults and leave out politics!
 

NiuBiDaRen

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Documentary of military truck drivers on China National Highway 219. The highway passes through Aksai Chin and the mountains that border Nepal, India and Pakistan. The "Road of Death"
 
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