Ladakh Flash Point
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'Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.' - George Santayana.
In the middle age, also known as the dark ages, if famine, plague, draught or any misfortune happened in the villages or cities, folks catches random women, accusing them of witchcraft, blaming them for all the misfortunes. More often than not, those women perishes in fire and smoke, watched by hundreds.
What India is doing these days... the similarities is uncanny. Someone needs to wake up India's upper echelons, get a grip of the reality and stop wagging the dogs.
Aksai Chin doesn't have much to offer to Indians. I think they were just being greedy. On the other hand China needs Aksai Chin to build a national highway linking to Xinjiang. I think the deal back then Arunachal Pradesh in exchange for Aksai Chin was very gentlemanly to the Indians, I simply don't see why they didn't agree back then. China has settled most of its land borders, but not the ones with India. They're being intransigent.
China will always be willing to put historic grievances aside for win-win agreements. Even in 1962, China offered to trade away South Tibet for Aksai Chin. Note this trade is in no way a "good deal" for China as South Tibet is much larger and richer in resources than Aksai Chin. China was willing to offer this deal in the spirit of friendship with the Indian people, so that both people can move on from our shared colonial past. India of course refused to negotiate and insisted holding on to the border legacy left by their British masters.
Furthermore, "win-win agreements" is no way incompatible with "China will punish anyone who tries to take her territory." China lost territory in the past is due to her own weakness. Now China has the capability to dish out punishment as well as make win-win agreements.
Mr T
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That sounds a lot like saying China can accept unequal treaties so long as it gets on with the other country, which would be contrary to previous Chinese government positions that unresolved unequal treaties would be a barrier to good relations.
Anyway I'll go back to my original question. I asked if China was happy with the revised area of control and if that could form a basis of a settlement, or whether China had further territorial ambitions.
Another user said that China would always punish another country that tried to take its territory, but that doesn't make a lot of sense in this context because as far as I'm aware the consensus on this forum is that India has not moved the border in its favour and it's China that has made advances.
So far I've had one helpful response. Maybe other users simply doesn't know the answer (but won't admit it).
False equivalence fallacy.
This whole thread started because of an Indian colonel going gung-ho and trying to infiltrate Chinese territory.
Attempting to bait people.
Mr T
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EDIT: I hope a hot conflict between China and India doesn't break out, but from reading the article it seems that it's a precautionary measure and not a sign that India thinks a bigger engagement is inevitable.
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