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siegecrossbow

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The Depsang Plains is a 'beachhead' of armor passable terrain into Aksai Chin. However, as you stated, in order to get there, the DBSO road passes very close to the LAC, and now the noose of the Galwan River valley has been effectively closed by Chinese troops.

One alternative I guess is dropping the equipment by air. However you need air superiority to pull that off.
 

Hendrik_2000

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I think these truck howitzers more suitable
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That is old news with only 122 mm gun it is short handed China has better and more potent self propelled gun like the new 155mm PLC 181 recently unveiled and already deployed in Tibet with high firing rate of 4 munition per minute and can fired assorted munition from HE to Krasnopol. High accuracy due to digital firing control and short preparation time.
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Chinese state media have earlier reported that People's Liberation Army Ground Force (PLAGF) in the Tibet Military Command, the Army's 71st, 73rd, and 77th Group Artillery Brigade had been equipped with the new howitzers.
PLC-181 can fire a variety of armaments including laser-guided projectiles and satellite-guided artillery shells with a maximum range of 50km. It can carry 27 rounds of ammunition and 15 barrels of propellant.
The PCL-181 is equipped with an automatic fire control system (AFCS). Digitalized control panels can be found in the cab, and this highly digitalized system allows artillery gun deployment with the press of a button, automatic gun calibration and half-automatic ammo reload. This can shorten the preparation time to shoot the weapon, giving the artillery stronger combat capabilities.


China's PLA Replaces Two Artillery Guns with Vehicle-mounted 155mm Howitzer

Following the input of the target azimuth data, the vehicle-mounted fire control computer can automatically settle the shooting elements and automatically adjust the azimuth and height of the artillery. However, such element adjustments of the PL-66 rely entirely on manual operation.
Weighing only 25 tons, the howitzer reportedly provides longer endurance than heavier counterparts that use crawler tracks. “This data means the PCL-181 not only has high mobility, but it can also be transported by large transport aircraft like the domestically made Y-20, which has a cargo capacity of more than 60 tons,” a military expert told the Global Times on April 30.


A single Y-20 can likely carry two PCL-181s, or a combination of one PCL-181 and one 30 ton-class Type 15 lightweight main battle tank, both of which are choices that offer frontline troops immense firepower, the expert added.
The bulletproof vehicle on which the howitzer is mounted on has a large driver's cab that can accommodate all six artillery squad members, CCTV reported a week ago.
 
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AndrewS

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It's in the interests of both India and China to resolve the situation peacefully, so let's move the discussion to how this could happen.

Modi is trying to defuse the situation by being crystal clear that Indian territory has not been violated. That goes against the facts on the ground in the aftermath of Monday's confrontation, but it does demonstrate he wants to control the hotheads in the BJP/RSS, some of which are his own ministers.

So I think the Chinese are doing the right thing by saying very little at this point, and letting Modi try to manage the situation.

The biggest issue is how emotional and irrational the average Indian and the media are there.
 

jfy1155

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That is old news with only 122 mm gun it is short handed China has better and more potent self propelled gun like the new 155mm PLC 181 recently unveiled and already deployed in Tibet with high firing rate of 4 munition per minute and can fired assorted munition from HE to Krasnopol. High accuracy due to digital firing control and short preparation time.
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Chinese state media have earlier reported that People's Liberation Army Ground Force (PLAGF) in the Tibet Military Command, the Army's 71st, 73rd, and 77th Group Artillery Brigade had been equipped with the new howitzers.
PLC-181 can fire a variety of armaments including laser-guided projectiles and satellite-guided artillery shells with a maximum range of 50km. It can carry 27 rounds of ammunition and 15 barrels of propellant.
The PCL-181 is equipped with an automatic fire control system (AFCS). Digitalized control panels can be found in the cab, and this highly digitalized system allows artillery gun deployment with the press of a button, automatic gun calibration and half-automatic ammo reload. This can shorten the preparation time to shoot the weapon, giving the artillery stronger combat capabilities.


China's PLA Replaces Two Artillery Guns with Vehicle-mounted 155mm Howitzer's PLA Replaces Two Artillery Guns with Vehicle-mounted 155mm Howitzer

Following the input of the target azimuth data, the vehicle-mounted fire control computer can automatically settle the shooting elements and automatically adjust the azimuth and height of the artillery. However, such element adjustments of the PL-66 rely entirely on manual operation.
Weighing only 25 tons, the howitzer reportedly provides longer endurance than heavier counterparts that use crawler tracks. “This data means the PCL-181 not only has high mobility, but it can also be transported by large transport aircraft like the domestically made Y-20, which has a cargo capacity of more than 60 tons,” a military expert told the Global Times on April 30.


A single Y-20 can likely carry two PCL-181s, or a combination of one PCL-181 and one 30 ton-class Type 15 lightweight main battle tank, both of which are choices that offer frontline troops immense firepower, the expert added.
The bulletproof vehicle on which the howitzer is mounted on has a large driver's cab that can accommodate all six artillery squad members, CCTV reported a week ago.

What kind are these?
 
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Petrolicious88

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It's in the interests of both India and China to resolve the situation peacefully, so let's move the discussion to how this could happen.

Modi is trying to defuse the situation by being crystal clear that Indian territory has not been violated. That goes against the facts on the ground in the aftermath of Monday's confrontation, but it does demonstrate he wants to control the hotheads in the BJP/RSS, some of which are his own ministers.

So I think the Chinese are doing the right thing by saying very little at this point, and letting Modi try to manage the situation.

The biggest issue is how emotional and irrational the average Indian and the media are there.

Totally agree. India media these days are sensationalizing the situation. It’s fanning the fame and putting enormous pressure on Modi.
This is not helped by all the extreme nationalism these days in India with an obsessed focus on getting revenge.
 
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