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Sardaukar20

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It helps India create doubt and maneuver however they want when it comes to creating and spreading false narratives!

That's it though. They dwell in the "war of perception". When it comes to actual war, they falter and get slaughtered. It'll be like a modern military fighting a horde of 5th century foot soldiers.

India has no UAVs of its own LOL the only ones they have are some really low end recon ones and many are actually just DJI drones with cameras :rolleyes:

India do not have domestically produced UAVs. But India does have a sizable fleet of imported UAV force consisting of Israeli supplied: IAI Searcher (100+), IAI Heron (60+), and the IAI Harop loitering munition (54 purchased, unknown deployed). The only one with the ability to inflict direct harm are the IAI Harops. These were battle-proven in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict of 2016 and the Syrian Civil War. Formidable, but not against China.

What India doesn't have right now are the heavy UAVs and true UCAVs. All of those are fully operational in China. China's UAV technology and deployment scale far exceeds India's. They are after all only second behind the USA (they could be #1, but that is still debatable). If India does push China into a war, expect to see China redefining the whole meaning of drone warfare. It would be interesting to see if China can use 80%-100% UAVs instead of manned aircraft for air to ground missions such as: SEAD, CAS, Air Interdiction, etc.

I always imagined that the next combatant killed by the PLA since 1988 would be pirates or terrorists, not enemy soldiers. But alas we have the BJP Indian soldier. He is only a soldier because of the uniform he wears. Without that, I don't think I could distinguish him from a common terrorist, ready to be blown up by drone.
 

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Here's my take of the strategic situation. Basically India misread the moment.

Imagine we have a face down in an alley between four people, on one side we have Xi, on the other we have Trump, Tsai and Modi.
The three of them are making a hell of lot of noise. Modi thought it's now time for final attack on China. He figured soon there would be open conflict in both SCS and Taiwan, so he figured hell yeah, I want a piece of that action, grab me some land and some renown among my people. So the three of them all took a step forward.

Suddenly Xi pulls out a pair of swords from behind his back, one of them is called DF-21D, and the other one is called DF-26B. Trump and Tsai, being quick to understand the implications immediately takes a step back again.

Modi suddenly finds himself in front of everyone and taking all the hits, while crying saying what the hell are you two doing?
 

Sardaukar20

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India is repeating the 1962 path to war almost perfectly. We are going from tactical maneuvering, to fist fights, and now to gun fire.

The only difference now is that unlike 1962, India does not occupy large areas of Chinese territory, which prompted the Chinese counter attack then. But since India claims that these Chinese territories belong to them, it would be India's turn now to be the ones doing the "counter attack".

It looks like China has no more patience left with India. There has been too much one-sided Indian provocations on the military, economic, and diplomatic front. And now we have the 1st military gunfire directed at PLA troops since the last Sino-Vietnam skirmish. I don't know what is still holding China back at the moment. Is it because the CCP is still trying to playing nice, or Indian incompetence?

Things are almost certainly going to get worse from now on. I think that there is a deliberate approval from the top of Indian leadership for the military to get reckless with the Chinese. I think there is a good-cop, bad-cop routine going on here. Modi and the ministers would play the good-cop and pretend to ask for restrain and talks. But behind, they order the Indian military to bully the Chinese on the ground for concessions. Obviously, the Indian military is failing in their task miserably, so they now resort to gunfire.

India is overdue for a much deserved spanking by the PLA. Perhaps when India does turn this into a hot war. China would get the chance to showcase its true capabilities against a conventional adversary. This would mark the combat debut of the newly modernized PLA. And all those modern Chinese weapons could finally prove their worth in battle. Then China would no longer be labeled a paper tiger.
 

Sardaukar20

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I'm pretty sure the PLA had killed plenty of pirates and terrorists since 1998. China has the largest contingent of UN peacekeeping forces.
Perhaps I should have mentioned Chinese PLA soldiers not killing enemy combatants since 1988 while serving under the Chinese flag. But not counting kills under the UN peacekeeper forces flag.
 
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