Ladakh Flash Point

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Brainsuker

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What is the PLA training we are referring to? Any one has any update on the same?

It was here long time ago. About the new (not really new today) upgrade training base (I think it is the current PLA training base in Inner Mongolian) for PLA that they build around 2010; where people talk about the result of Red vs Blue in the event. From what I remember, the first Red General lost his entire division (or at least half) after he put a tight formation in the training event, and his army got nuked by Blue side, and lost. I'm sure that old posters like PLA wolf, Hendrik, Blitzo will remember about that discussion. Because they were part of the discussion in here at that time.

At that time, PLA still use the old organization, with 7 military area, and still use the old military doctrine and training. We often got acrobatic PLA training show in here, SDF. And I think Xi Jinping was just become PRC President, if it's not still Hu Jintao era.
 
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SinoSoldier

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A little too soon to talk of war, isn't it?

China and India both have had squabbles like this before which eventually fizzled out.

And people seem to forget that Pakistan and India have cross-border shooting incidents almost on a weekly basis without further escalation of conflict. What China and India are going through is rare (which is why there's so much media attention) but hardly alarming in the scheme of regional geopolitical balance.

This, like the other border quarrels that China has with its immediate neighbors, will eventually die out.
 

ougoah

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A little too soon to talk of war, isn't it?

China and India both have had squabbles like this before which eventually fizzled out.

And people seem to forget that Pakistan and India have cross-border shooting incidents almost on a weekly basis without further escalation of conflict. What China and India are going through is rare (which is why there's so much media attention) but hardly alarming in the scheme of regional geopolitical balance.

This, like the other border quarrels that China has with its immediate neighbors, will eventually die out.

The Indians are more angry about it this time and up in arms with fury. As weak as banning some apps are, their determination to act further should be noted. It's the thought that counts right? Well they want to rape and pillage this time because their government and media have radicalised them even further. It will be no different to dealing with any other group of violent extremists except this one may be an entire nation led by the government. War is a potential outcome and ought to be prepared against.
 

SinoSoldier

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The Indians are more angry about it this time and up in arms with fury. As weak as banning some apps are, their determination to act further should be noted. It's the thought that counts right? Well they want to rape and pillage this time because their government and media have radicalised them even further. It will be no different to dealing with any other group of violent extremists except this one may be an entire nation led by the government. War is a potential outcome and ought to be prepared against.

For all the talk and posturing within the Chinese and Indian media, there seems to be little in the way of official political or military maneuvers from either country. Most of the conflict is played out over official channels of communication and/or social media rather than an actual battlefield. Both nations know the cost of a regional war and thus are willing to stay put in hopes of long-term stability.

By contrast, India and Pakistan frequently engage in artillery exchanges and shootouts that result in real casualties. A rock fight between patrolling Indian & Chinese troops is hardly an indication that India is "radicalized".
 

ougoah

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For all the talk and posturing within the Chinese and Indian media, there seems to be little in the way of official political or military maneuvers from either country. Most of the conflict is played out over official channels of communication and/or social media rather than an actual battlefield. Both nations know the cost of a regional war and thus are willing to stay put in hopes of long-term stability.

By contrast, India and Pakistan frequently engage in artillery exchanges and shootouts that result in real casualties. A rock fight between patrolling Indian & Chinese troops is hardly an indication that India is "radicalized".

I was speaking about the people of India and the proliferating radical attitudes. The faith placed into a halfwit demagogue like Modi and the increasing support for his offered "solutions" which are more or less chauvinistic attitudes and increased nationalism. It's all more an effort in denial and blame shifting than actually solving problems. Rather than find real solutions to the Muslim Hindu divide, he turns old mosques into Hindu temples and uses the media to play this sort of move up like "WE'RE WINNING AND HAVE BALLLLLLLS!" lol it's actually all worse than Trump level demagoguery. When it comes to real problems, he has no solutions and often makes things worse.

So yeah the militaries are at the moment behaving. Well India's is at the moment and I say India only because they may be the ones instigating something new and since China's already defused IA's prior aggression along the LAC with recent moves, I don't see the PLA doing anything aggressive.

I sincerely feel that Indian people have become increasingly radicalised by BJP/RSS politics and narratives. This makes them less predictable and reasonable. I have never seen Chinese hotel owners ban Indians, Chinese people attack Indians on the streets in China, Chinese people burn effigies of Modi or the Indian flag, although I think all that is justified for Chinese people (except attacking individuals). Or even Chinese retaliating India's pathetic "trade war" lol. BTW their trade war is over and they've already stopped trying. It hasn't even been a few months and the numbers seem to show no real difference. Contrast this with Indian behaviour. They're calling for the murder and rape of Chinese people non-stop, constantly slandering Chinese and making up lies, spreading it all over the internet, and feel righteous about it all. Absolute scum. Chinese people have done nothing of significance and few even know about the conflict. So no it isn't social media battles. Chinese don't really care and only if you go looking for these discussions on Chinese boards, you'd find some people talking about it but usually quite sensible and rather peaceful tones dominate the conversations. The few chauvinists you'd find are such a small proportion of Chinese population it makes me feel uneasy. Typical Chinese passivity.

The only official material Chinese side is portraying is just showing high altitude army exercises. Military commentators may have recently discussed more Indian military topics but that's about it. It does not compare to Indian media attention and noise levels. This Ladakh conflict dominates Indian conversations at almost every level. Daily reports and media attention on this and all their politicians and military/ex military have some daily post about it. Meanwhile you'd have to go looking for the equivalent in Chinese conversations and they are far and few between.
 
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Rubeena

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It was here long time ago. About the new (not really new today) upgrade training base (I think it is the current PLA training base in Inner Mongolian) for PLA that they build around 2010; where people talk about the result of Red vs Blue in the event. From what I remember, the first Red General lost his entire division (or at least half) after he put a tight formation in the training event, and his army got nuked by Blue side, and lost. I'm sure that old posters like PLA wolf, Hendrik, Blitzo will remember about that discussion. Because they were part of the discussion in here at that time.

At that time, PLA still use the old organization, with 7 military area, and still use the old military doctrine and training. We often got acrobatic PLA training show in here, SDF. And I think Xi Jinping was just become PRC President, if it's not still Hu Jintao era.
Amazing to hear about that training. I was not aware. if someone has any link or any material please do share, want to study about that.
Thank you
 

jfy1155

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A little too soon to talk of war, isn't it?

China and India both have had squabbles like this before which eventually fizzled out.

And people seem to forget that Pakistan and India have cross-border shooting incidents almost on a weekly basis without further escalation of conflict. What China and India are going through is rare (which is why there's so much media attention) but hardly alarming in the scheme of regional geopolitical balance.

This, like the other border quarrels that China has with its immediate neighbors, will eventually die out.

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