Ladakh Flash Point

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Biscuits

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Does anyone here knows how a land conflict betwen the indian and chinese armies would develop?

China can afford to not fight if they want to. So if there is a war, it would be India that throws the first blow.

India's first attack would be most dangerous if aimed at unprepared border patrols. If they tried going for hardened strategic targets like airbases, it does not seem likely their attacks will make it through.

China badly outclasses India in Air force and artillery. Without air superiority, India can't mount an offensive.

Depending on what China's objectives are, they could either opt for peace like in 1962, or press on.

However, the himalayas are unfavorable terrain for the mechanised based PLA forces, so China wouldn't be able to advance into India in any appreciable way. That is, unless they enlist Pakistan and attack through Kashmir.
 

Brumby

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I think we're speaking past each other, since you're countering a point I never made... I never claimed that AI precedes imaging. Of course you need data first, and then your pre-trained 'AI' classifies it, and I'm not sure what you mean by "not because of network", because that's also my point.
I am merely responding to your example of AI application and pointing out from that example that imaging fidelity is the prerequisite for ATR. Without the imaging quality no AI in the world can perform ATR.

I am well aware of your main point of AI dispensing with the need for networks. Until you are able to come forth with a more comprehensive position on the subject it is best to give this conversation a break.
 

Mohsin77

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Without the imaging quality no AI in the world can perform ATR.

Well, obviously. I mean, no one's arguing against that.

I am well aware of your main point of AI dispensing with the need for networks. Until you are able to come forth with a more comprehensive position on the subject it is best to give this conversation a break.

Agreed. I'll try and gather some sources.
 

Brainsuker

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I found this analysis (starting 3:55) from an ex PLA military officer of the Nanjing military district (pre-reform) and there are actually a lot of solid analysis from a pure military standpoint. Way better than the usual chest thumping rants from both Indian and Chinese amateurs.

Can you explain it? Is it the explanation of India's route if they're decide to attack China side?
 

nastya1

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Rafael is no guarantee even against j10c and j16 let alone j20. But China also not quite ready with so limited number of j20. J20b number needed to be greatly expanded. Taiwan is higher priority now but eventually China western side is greater strategic importance down the line so the war between China and India is unavoidable. India wants to control full Kashmir and water resources at Tibet. 80℅ of Indian army and air forces are in Kashmir and lakdah. Supply is a big issue for India. If roads being destroyed and supply got interrupted , it would catastrophic for Indian front line.
 

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Can you explain it? Is it the explanation of India's route if they're decide to attack China side?

The officer takes the Indian threat very seriously but pointed out several baffling strategic decisions from the Indian side and the most egregious of which is stationing so many troops near the LAC. Not only are they covered by PLA artillery fire, but they present a huge logistical liability come winter. He also pointed out that Indian infrastructure in the area are prone to destruction by Chinese and Pakistani forces and should India launch an attack, they’d be at a disadvantage since China holds several strategic choke points.
 

Jono

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I have a pure speculation and wild imagination thought.
what if the PLA feigns defeat at the first contact and withdraws into Tibet.
The Indian troops would then feel so elated that they would pour across the border only to be trapped and decimated in a well prepared ambush with no escape in a cul de sac fashion, as their backs are now to the high mountains and narrow passage ways.
I believe the PLA used this kind of tactic to great effect against the KMT army during the civil war.
 
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Brumby

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The officer takes the Indian threat very seriously but pointed out several baffling strategic decisions from the Indian side and the most egregious of which is stationing so many troops near the LAC. Not only are they covered by PLA artillery fire, but they present a huge logistical liability come winter. He also pointed out that Indian infrastructure in the area are prone to destruction by Chinese and Pakistani forces and should India launch an attack, they’d be at a disadvantage since China holds several strategic choke points.
In a land campaign in that part of the world, the fundamental issue would be logistical and not technological. A large army needs to be supplied to sustain operations.
Just like the Chinese, the Indians would certainly target all Chinese choke points, key infrastructures like bridges et al. Why would the risk of destruction be unique only to the Indian side?
 
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