Ladakh Flash Point

Mt1701d said:

I am not sure what you are talking about… considering Tibet was part of China under the Qing dynasty… when the Qing fell and ROC became the legal government of China they had every right to claim all territories of Qing… now they weren’t able to do that due to issues at the time but they had the legal right nonetheless thus when PRC assumed the role of the primary government of China inheriting all legal territorial claims of ROC and by extension the Qing. The PRC had every right to reclaim the territory, we can discuss the means by which that happened but they had the right to do so regardless. The same applies to both Xinjiang and Hong Kong. Whether we like it or not is not the point… you only have a problem with it because it is communist government that did the reclaiming.


Again the course of event is irrelevant to the discussion in this matter, as you have said yourself they were attempting to gain international recognition, this meaning they were not recognised as a nation/independent state by the majority of the international community at the time but as a wayward territory of China (whichever one we like to talk about) the successor state of the Qing empire and also the successor of all territories of the Qing empire.

You can throw out all the legal technicality you want but China had and has the legal right to reclaim all territory of their immediate predecessor regardless. They just chose force to do so. You can keep going on and on as well as throw insult left right and centre but India did the same when they got independence and use brute force at times so I am not sure why you are throwing shade at only China…

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Bellum_Romanum said:

So from legal ownership of Chinese lands to segwaying into Chinese battlefield defeats? So you can't rebuttal factual replies you resort into nonsensical non sequitur LOL. Look, your supposed country was so meek, weak, and fragile that it couldn't even muster to resist a British invasion able to swallow the entire Indian territory so thoroughly without even breaking a sweat. Pathetic. As for skirmishes and battles the Chinese has been kicking Indians butt from the ancient times to now. The Tang Dynasty had a brief battle against Indian King and the Chinese whooped Indian butt so hard it wasn't even a sweat. India tried to intimidate Mao's China only to be severely humiliated in 1962 War. You again thought you are on the Chinese level and decided to make provocative moves in Ladakh resulting in the unfortunate deaths on both sides with more deaths and wounded, along with captured soldiers on the Indian side plus officers.

Indians love to talk, and are big talkers and I have yet to be impressed with any of your battlefield prowess especially in modern times. Keep dreaming that's all you'll ever amount to if you folks keep barking louder than your actual bites.

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Spiritual Warrior said:

From a legal standpoint, Tibet has Not lost its statehood. I can understand that law & legal counsel will Not make Common Sense to Few but Lack of Understanding of Subject matter cannot lead to abrasive and uneducated uncivilized behaviour by some aspiring to be global leaders. Though it's another massive discussion on how that leadership is being achieved by stealing, hacking and human massacre of innocent Ughyurs and Tibetan Buddhist temples.

Tibet It is an independent state under illegal occupation.

Neither China's military invasion nor the continuing occupation by the PLA has transferred the sovereignty of Tibet to China. Period. Please use Google to translate to your language of choice before responding with logic and reasoning.

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LawLeadsToPeace said:

@Blitzo @siegecrossbow I think this thread should be shut down. It outlived its purposes and is filled with trivial nonsense.

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Spiritual Warrior said:

That's why it's important that few countries need to have access to Google to stay abreast of current reality and and live life on State/Party Sponsored links

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FriedButter said:

Yes yes. We get it. You miss the loving embrace of Queen Elizabeth II.

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Crang said:

Let's call bets on how long before this thread gets closed and the guy gets banned.

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Mt1701d said:

I am not sure what you are talking about… considering Tibet was part of China under the Qing dynasty… when the Qing fell and ROC became the legal government of China they had every right to claim all territories of Qing… now they weren’t able to do that due to issues at the time but they had the legal right nonetheless thus when PRC assumed the role of the primary government of China inheriting all legal territorial claims of ROC and by extension the Qing. The PRC had every right to reclaim the territory, we can discuss the means by which that happened but they had the right to do so regardless. The same applies to both Xinjiang and Hong Kong. Whether we like it or not is not the point… you only have a problem with it because it is communist government that did the reclaiming.


Again the course of event is irrelevant to the discussion in this matter, as you have said yourself they were attempting to gain international recognition, this meaning they were not recognised as a nation/independent state by the majority of the international community at the time but as a wayward territory of China (whichever one we like to talk about) the successor state of the Qing empire and also the successor of all territories of the Qing empire.

You can throw out all the legal technicality you want but China had and has the legal right to reclaim all territory of their immediate predecessor regardless. They just chose force to do so. You can keep going on and on as well as throw insult left right and centre but India did the same when they got independence and use brute force at times so I am not sure why you are throwing shade at only China…

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Mt1701d said:

I am not sure what you are talking about… considering Tibet was part of China under the Qing dynasty… when the Qing fell and ROC became the legal government of China they had every right to claim all territories of Qing… now they weren’t able to do that due to issues at the time but they had the legal right nonetheless thus when PRC assumed the role of the primary government of China inheriting all legal territorial claims of ROC and by extension the Qing. The PRC had every right to reclaim the territory, we can discuss the means by which that happened but they had the right to do so regardless. The same applies to both Xinjiang and Hong Kong. Whether we like it or not is not the point… you only have a problem with it because it is communist government that did the reclaiming.


Again the course of event is irrelevant to the discussion in this matter, as you have said yourself they were attempting to gain international recognition, this meaning they were not recognised as a nation/independent state by the majority of the international community at the time but as a wayward territory of China (whichever one we like to talk about) the successor state of the Qing empire and also the successor of all territories of the Qing empire.

You can throw out all the legal technicality you want but China had and has the legal right to reclaim all territory of their immediate predecessor regardless. They just chose force to do so. You can keep going on and on as well as throw insult left right and centre but India did the same when they got independence and use brute force at times so I am not sure why you are throwing shade at only China…

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Spiritual Warrior said:

@Crang @Bellum_Romanum what say to State Surveillance & peotic life trying to garner High Credit System
As His Holiness would say... May peace be with U

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