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J20 RTS

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That was debunked last year. If I remember correctly, that is a photo from a documentary about soldiers leaving the army. Is it effective propaganda? Yes, especially for people who are unable to do research in the Chinese realm of the Internet. Is it full of s**t? Yes because it is fake news.

Since you are relatively new, I just wanna throw some advice out there. When it comes to media outlets, there are three types of media sources most of us don’t cite unless we have no choice or cite them to debunk or make fun of them: Taiwanese, Indian, and Minnie Chan.
Especially Minnie Chan.
 

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I have no idea if this is true or not but this is hilarious
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Effective propoganda! :))
Nope, the man was crying because he was retiring from the military and all his buddies were there to say goodbye. Sh*t like this triggers me, the propaganda I mean. Sometimes I really wish for just a bit that a large-scale clash happened with the Indians and Taiwan so they can forever remember their military being annihilated within 7 days. I know this is a bad thought but the idea that they insult my countries soldiers really pisses me off especially when it's from these small ants.
 

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I have no idea if this is true or not but this is hilarious
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Effective propoganda! :))
Ah I read the article

The Pakistani "comedian" they're quoting is a comedian but a different type of comedian...

He is our Alex Jones, far right, fundamentalist nut job who is looking for "final solution" of the "Hindus"...

He happens to also hate China due to the Xinjiang issue

His wet dream is taking place right in front of his eyes

The whole ordeal is hilarious, but wow kudos to the headline, very eye catching!
 

ougoah

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The indians also took a 2013 Chinese documentary on PLA grave sites and presented it as evidence for mass PLA deaths during 2020 June fighting clash. It's pathetic, rude, cowardly, and typical of right wing bhakt nutjobs who have to bend reality to soothe their egos. It's not the first lie they've made up and won't be the last.

Remember the claims of 70kg guy who single handedly threw off four PLA soldiers and killed 12 in total? lololol or PLAAF Su-35 being shot down by Taiwan anyone? Remember how Taiwan officially told the Jai Hinds to stop lying in case they trigger an actual PRC response? lol that was funny. Taiwan fearing Yindoo fake news masters might actually cause military responses in reality.

India is indeed a superpower when it comes to bullshitting and pumping itself up with nothing but its own flatulence. If it ever came to real war with China (without China being distracted anywhere else) China would curbstomp it within 7 hours forget about 7 days. India has no cyber warfare capability, no EW capability, no knowledge of what ECM and ECCM are. It doesn't have any drones or any inkling of what modern warfare is like. The gap between India and China is greater than the gap between China and the US. Significant to say the least. India to this day still manufactures for itself nothing of importance or significance that hasn't been done by China back in the early 1990s. Name a single thing. Tejas subsystems are quite dependent on Israeli, French, and American equipment. Beyond a HGV test vehicle, one nuke boat (India's own development), and ASAT/BMD ability, India's military is totally import dependent and lower tech than China was 20 years ago.

When it comes to war, China is binary. It's all out or nothing. India's advantage of having majority of forces much closer to Ladakh is of less importance if it came to an escalation. China would have no qualms about devoting a great deal of PLAAF and PLARF to this fight with long ranged missiles reserved in case the US steps in. China has no chance in taking on an Indian US combined assault and will therefore do what it can to avoid a conflict but it has been shown that it will still refuse to cede the remaining 20% of disputed land to India even if an American threat is the primary and only real threat to China.

Bhakts often want to believe that India can actually meet and defeat China. About as delusional as 1995 China defeating a 2019 USA. Sorry but even with 360 Rafales, it would do little to change things. Rafales don't have infinite range and infinite payload. Even cheap MLRS from PLA can have 5m CEP at 300km+ range and each variety of MLRS from PLA (there are many, many types) outnumber the entire Indian armed forces ordinance.

India so far in its history post independence has always been a military weakling, on and off paper. It can barely militarily defeat Pakistan without any Chinese support. There is a reason why Modi and his generals refused to initiate shooting despite not getting what they wanted and slicing away the remaining 20%. They know they'd be curbstomped within hours and then either face execution at the hands of the Chinese or their own angry delusional bhakts.
 
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The indians also took a 2013 Chinese documentary on PLA grave sites and presented it as evidence for mass PLA deaths during 2020 June fighting clash. It's pathetic, rude, cowardly, and typical of right wing bhakt nutjobs who have to bend reality to soothe their egos. It's not the first lie they've made up and won't be the last.

Remember the claims of 70kg guy who single handedly threw off four PLA soldiers and killed 12 in total? lololol or PLAAF Su-35 being shot down by Taiwan anyone? Remember how Taiwan officially told the Jai Hinds to stop lying in case they trigger an actual PRC response? lol that was funny. Taiwan fearing Yindoo fake news masters might actually cause military responses in reality.

India is indeed a superpower when it comes to bullshitting and pumping itself up with nothing but its own flatulence. If it ever came to real war with China (without China being distracted anywhere else) China would curbstomp it within 7 hours forget about 7 days. India has no cyber warfare capability, no EW capability, no knowledge of what ECM and ECCM are. It doesn't have any drones or any inkling of what modern warfare is like. The gap between India and China is greater than the gap between China and the US. Significant to say the least.

Very true. Indians love to spread fake news. The Foreign Policy covered that incident.

"Early on Friday morning in India, a video purporting to show a Chinese Su-35, a Russian-built plane used by the Chinese military, shot down in Taiwan began to spread like wildfire online, promoted by military-oriented
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strongly denied the claims, which, as of writing, has barely dampened the Indian enthusiasm for them."

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It's so pathetic. Easily the most pathetic nation. Constantly trashtalking and putting others down when it's slipped past sub-saharan Africa in the 1990s in terms of living standards and overall development. Using selective pockets of excellence to prop up this constant ego soother. Absolute travesty and joke of a leadership. True humanitarian crisis and human rights violations but ignored by the west because they truly don't give a shit.

Deng and following leaders saw right through it all. They knew that post British India, that nation has little true self determination. It remains a slave to the globalists and the western elites because its ruling class can and always is bought off. They serve themselves, the almighty dollar, and their western masters who facilitate that status quo. The commoners will never get a chance and remain in those slums until true change manifests. The old communists in China suspected the imperialists and everything they touched. It's not by accident that the US empire wants democracies and easily controlled politicians. Influence is their game (and China tries to play this too but fails miserably despite what US moans about) and corruption is their real currency for making things happen according to their desires.

India is no different whether it's the Modis/no names or Ghandis in power. Modi tried being a Mao/Deng like character for India but seems like you need actual intelligence and competence to rule a large messy population like China's and India's. It's deeply ironic Modi and BJP/RSS policies have so much support in India yet they openly dislike "authoritarian commies/strong man leaders"... you're doing that or at least something very similar! except failing so very miserably at it.
 
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Ah I read the article

The Pakistani "comedian" they're quoting is a comedian but a different type of comedian...

He is our Alex Jones, far right, fundamentalist nut job who is looking for "final solution" of the "Hindus"...

He happens to also hate China due to the Xinjiang issue

His wet dream is taking place right in front of his eyes

The whole ordeal is hilarious, but wow kudos to the headline, very eye catching!
Are you Pakistani?
 

ougoah

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New members introduce yourselves!!

It's not like there's a line of countries who simp over China :)

Most nations are indeed rather neutral or antagonist to China but I don't think Pakistan simps over China. If anything it gets more out of the alliance. China also has to deal with very misinformed Pakistani "fans" and "simps" who are extremely volatile or often turn against China when their delusions become realised. Both nations have a working relationship and should strive to maintain that, as for all nations. It's just that misinformed people who "think" based on dogma and emotion are terrible supporters to have (this doesn't apply exclusively to Pakistanis and indeed certainly not all Pakistanis or the nation of Pakistan).

China prefers to have good relations and working relations with all nations... as do all nations. Pakistan's value to China is in a regional partner who cooperates on the common "problem" of an antagonistic India which has much stronger connections and influence by the west. It's the original reason for China-Pakistan relations to have developed and remains as the main motivator despite CPEC and BRI now becoming relatively important to both. China offers far more financial and military support to Pakistan than it receives from Pakistan.

Too often Pakistani "fans" are simply too misinformed about various topics. It shows how little they understand of the alliance and technical topics. While it's in the interest of both that good relations are maintained, neither country are simps for the other. Whatever "help" Pakistan receives in terms of military and financial regards, it pays for in one form or another. Short and medium term strategic goals align but ironically India's and China's long term goals align even further if both retain a healthy attitude of seeing a multipolar, peaceful world grow out of this eventually. China is intolerant of any power group especially political ones and organised religions that threaten to disrupt progress (for better or worse). India on paper is the most tolerant out of the three. Pakistan is even less tolerant than China (replace CCP with Islam in that comparison) and unless Pakistan is okay with non-Islamic nations, China and Pakistan's long term strategic goals can not possibly align beyond surface cooperation.
 
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