Ladakh Flash Point

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davidau

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This particular sentence, "Sources said H-20 bombers are aimed at ending the edge India acquired through the acquisition of Rafale jets.", has me chuckling.
What edge has Rafale given India vis-a-vis China?
In fact, India is nowhere even close to catching up, forget about having an edge.

Maybe, the Rafale gives India a slight edge over Pakistan (at least on paper), but even that too will be largely dependent upon how the IAF implements its strategies and logistcics.
If the Balakot incident were any indication, the IAF is not in a good shape at all.

I still feel there is a lot of delusions of grandeur within the Indian Military and Public alike, they are simply living in a Bollywood dream. Or maybe the truth is just too frightening to accept.
If Modi can claim cow dung cures Covid 19 pandemic, you can picture the populace deluded mentality. Period.
 

jfy1155

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Do retired Indian military people write scripts for Funny Bollywood movies? Indians love their twitter sources.

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"One outstanding account of bravery and valour is about a young Ghatak commando (name withheld). He despite all odd fought bravely and killed 12 Chinese soldiers, single-handedly. When four Chinese soldiers cornered him, he pushed all four, one by one off the cliff. While pushing them down, he slipped off the cliff. His fall was arrested by a boulder, gravely injuring him. However, the fall and the injuries didn’t deter him. He pulled himself back to the fight and started fighting with the Chinese again. When he got a chance, he snatched a barbed wired stick from a Chinese soldier. Thereafter there was no stopping him. He killed seven more Chinese with their own weapon of treachery. In the melee, the brave heart was stabbed from behind by a cowardly Chinese soldier. The grievously injured Ghatak swung around killing the attacker before making the supreme sacrifice."

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Maula Jatt

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Do retired Indian military people write scripts for Funny Bollywood movies? Indians love their twitter sources.

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"One outstanding account of bravery and valour is about a young Ghatak commando (name withheld). He despite all odd fought bravely and killed 12 Chinese soldiers, single-handedly. When four Chinese soldiers cornered him, he pushed all four, one by one off the cliff. While pushing them down, he slipped off the cliff. His fall was arrested by a boulder, gravely injuring him. However, the fall and the injuries didn’t deter him. He pulled himself back to the fight and started fighting with the Chinese again. When he got a chance, he snatched a barbed wired stick from a Chinese soldier. Thereafter there was no stopping him. He killed seven more Chinese with their own weapon of treachery. In the melee, the brave heart was stabbed from behind by a cowardly Chinese soldier. The grievously injured Ghatak swung around killing the attacker before making the supreme sacrifice."

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Lol straight out of a Jackie Chan movie
 

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New Delhi: India has set its eyes on procuring the Russian-made Sprut-SDM1 light tanks, to counter China in the mountainous terrain along the Line of Actual Control (LAC), and will also take part in the trials of the system starting late summer.

This will be a first for Russia because no other country has witnessed trials of a product that is under development.
 

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This must be from the Indian narrative engineers who brought you "we see J-20 from 300km away with 1990s radar technology"... during a time when not a single J-20 was even delivered and stationed to a brigade within 1000km of Ladakh.

BTW take a moment to let that range claim sink in. Either J-20 has an RCS of a few hundred Su-27s or their radars can detect <0.01m^2 objects from a thousand kilometers away... many orders of magnitude better than those silly American, Chinese etc radars. No wonder the Russians didn't let Indian pilots use the Bars when doing exercises with the USAF. It'll burn a hole through an A-10 with that sort of wonderful performance.

Yes. They can supposedly discover J-20s from "several kilometers away" but didn't know that China stationed J-20s in Hotan, which is only a couple of hundred kilometers from Ladakh, until some Western enthusiasts spotted the aircraft on Google Earth.
 

Maula Jatt

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Sooner or later India will have to stay mum as Indian balls are in Tibet (so are the Pakistani, Bangali- which gets me scared s*** less tbh as billions will suffer if Beijing plays hard ball...)

Regardless of Indian growth to 50 trillion $ economy or not

China will still be in control unless China loses it by some Tibattan revolution or something

In the long term this conflict will die down and India will get on nuetral terms with China

It will never be friendly country since it's a pretty prestigious/important country (despite what people on this forum might claim) to be a smaller sideshow to China that'll accept the domination willingly like Pak or something

It'll probably be like Vietnam(if Vietnam had more than a billion people) to China a constant uneasy relationship but never a "true" threat to China
 

Xizor

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In the long term this conflict will die down and India will get on nuetral terms with China

It will never be friendly country since it's a pretty prestigious/important country (despite what people on this forum might claim) to be a smaller sideshow to China that'll accept the domination willingly like Pak or something
The conflict will never die down. It's almost like the Korean border over there.

No one has poo-pooed India's prestigious identity. I don't see normalcy return to that border the next few decades.

Pakistan hasn't accepted China's domination ( why would they be entertaining diplomatic bonhomie and military ties with Russia, Turkey etc?). Pakistan has less of a subservience to China as some countries have to certain other countries. You may look closely at the various foreign trade, military and diplomatic interactions of Pakistan.

China hasn't tried to dominate India. There is nothing to gain for China by doing it. China doesn't have this feverish urge to export any ideology or culture anywhere. But in a particular perspective, China has achieved the goal of dominating India - through trade.
 
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