Ladakh Flash Point
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PLA never refused Pangong disengagement. India refused PLA terms for disengagement until it eventually agreed.
PLA offered Pangong disengagement in exchange for India agreeing to stay behind F3.
The only change in the entire Pangong dialogue was that india eventually accepted that it has to move back to behind F3.
The situation was NOT how bhakts interpret it which btw doesn't make any sense.
Bhakts say that PLA constantly refused to move back when India was willing to move behind F3? LOL how does that make a shred of sense? Of course the only logical deduction is that India eventually accepted whatever terms China offered for PLA disengagement and those terms eventually were revealed to be India has to stay behind F3.
There is no universe where China successfully occupied F4 to F8 and India asked rounds 1 to 5 for China to move back and China said no and then mysteriously China said yes on the 10 time India asked. Are you serious?
The presented event is the real full event. China's had conditions for PLA disengagement. India refused for 9 rounds of talks or so and then eventually capitulated and accepted China's conditions. China then disengaged PLA after india agreed it would not move beyond F3 any more. If India sets foot beyond F3 in the future, stand off will resume at Pangong.
PLA offered Pangong disengagement in exchange for India agreeing to stay behind F3.
The only change in the entire Pangong dialogue was that india eventually accepted that it has to move back to behind F3.
The situation was NOT how bhakts interpret it which btw doesn't make any sense.
Bhakts say that PLA constantly refused to move back when India was willing to move behind F3? LOL how does that make a shred of sense? Of course the only logical deduction is that India eventually accepted whatever terms China offered for PLA disengagement and those terms eventually were revealed to be India has to stay behind F3.
There is no universe where China successfully occupied F4 to F8 and India asked rounds 1 to 5 for China to move back and China said no and then mysteriously China said yes on the 10 time India asked. Are you serious?
The presented event is the real full event. China's had conditions for PLA disengagement. India refused for 9 rounds of talks or so and then eventually capitulated and accepted China's conditions. China then disengaged PLA after india agreed it would not move beyond F3 any more. If India sets foot beyond F3 in the future, stand off will resume at Pangong.
Why did India eventually agree to China's terms of disengagement? Because Pangong was becoming too politically heated for Modi during Indian election time and Modi's rivals were on heat charging him of more issues than he is actually responsible for... accusing him of "losing Indian land" which was never India's to begin with and while they were doing that, they accused him of losing more land than what was actually "lost" in terms of PLA occupying it. Lie to yourself and lie against others, whatever it is, it will bite you in the ass and work against you too. In that case Modi's ways were playing for and against him.
Note that disengagement has mostly been for Pangong the highest profile case. Ladakh standoff requires all 20% disputed zone to be resolved either China's way - entire 20% converted to buffer with neither side every stepping foot on it for patrols and de facto control, or India's way - salami slice the 20% until it has greater de facto control and then build on the dispute. What India should do is agree to Chinese buffer offer but demand China demolish the new road from F8 to F5. The alternative is constant stand-off building towards war or perpetual risk of confrontations flaring up. China doesn't seem like it would even consider ceding this 20% to India and nor should it. This isn't Indian land.
Note that disengagement has mostly been for Pangong the highest profile case. Ladakh standoff requires all 20% disputed zone to be resolved either China's way - entire 20% converted to buffer with neither side every stepping foot on it for patrols and de facto control, or India's way - salami slice the 20% until it has greater de facto control and then build on the dispute. What India should do is agree to Chinese buffer offer but demand China demolish the new road from F8 to F5. The alternative is constant stand-off building towards war or perpetual risk of confrontations flaring up. China doesn't seem like it would even consider ceding this 20% to India and nor should it. This isn't Indian land.
I thought it had something to do with running out of oxygen tanks. I guess Jawans need to breathe air after all.
Lol what can they do about it?
Well they've ran out of Apps to ban. So essentially nothing.
Modi can name China. One year anniversary of Ladakh beating is coming up but I’m still waiting.
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