KJ-600 carrierborne AEWC thread & possible KY-600 (?) COD aircraft

Deino

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So is the airframe summary thus this: six prototypes.
Of which, last two prototypes given over to plan for evaluation
Then 3 more airframes (preserial standard? ) given over to plan?
For a total of currently 9 airframes of which 5 serving with Plan?


Difficult to say, we have clearly confirmed: ... and I expect 7104 again missing!

7101:
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7103:
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7105 & 7106
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plus that one (could be 01 or 02 or another one):
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Broccoli

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If that's the case is it possible that the production run for KJ-600 right now is already done. 5 KJ-500 is enough to equip Fujian maybe add 2-3 spares/trainer operating from land. Type 004 won't be in service for another 5-6 years and Shandong, Liaoning can't operate KJ-600s. For shore based AEWC PLAN has their own KJ-500H and KJ-700 I don't think they need KJ-600 especially it probably can't perform AEWC duties but only AEW.

They could deploy these on more remote locations like US plans to do with Hawkeye.
 

Tomboy

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They could deploy these on more remote locations like US plans to do with Hawkeye.
All the SCS airfields is capable of supporting KJ-500H/700. It's pretty much one of the only advantages of using military transport as a basis for special mission with short takeoff designed into it. However the biggest argument I heard for USAF E-2D is that you could put them into small hardened shelters to protect against drones.
 

ACuriousPLAFan

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If that's the case is it possible that the production run for KJ-600 right now is already done. 5 KJ-500 is enough to equip Fujian maybe add 2-3 spares/trainer operating from land. Type 004 won't be in service for another 5-6 years and Shandong, Liaoning can't operate KJ-600s. For shore based AEWC PLAN has their own KJ-500H and KJ-700 I don't think they need KJ-600 especially it probably can't perform AEWC duties but only AEW.
All the SCS airfields is capable of supporting KJ-500H/700. It's pretty much one of the only advantages of using military transport as a basis for special mission with short takeoff designed into it. However the biggest argument I heard for USAF E-2D is that you could put them into small hardened shelters to protect against drones.

One key point which carrier-based AEW&C aircrafts (E-2C/D and KJ-600) excels at is their STOL capability. This is a major factor of consideration for the JASDF, which is why they operate 18x (and increasing) E-2C/Ds, versus only a meager fleet of 4x E-767s - Mainly due to the need for operating from many of their islands with only short runways available on them.

Though, when it comes to KJ-600 - Despite bearing a lot of similarities to the E-2C/D, how much do they differ from one another?

For one, given that the KJ-600 is anticipated/expected to be propelled by two WJ-10/AEP500 turboprop engines with 5000 kW of power output (which is a significant step-up over the T56-A-427A and WJ-6C’s ~3800 kW), could the KJ-600 operate from the STOBAR twins (albeit only from launch position #3)? If that's a yes, then there will be a need for at least 8 more KJ-600s.

Moreover, there's the question of whether the KJ-600 is capable of high-altitude operations in mountainous terrains. If that's also a yes, this means the KJ-600 could be deployed at the frontline airbases across the Xizang Plateau. Given that they don't need runways that are as long as land-based aircrafts, their STOL capability could come in handy for operations in high-altitude airbases where the atmosphere is thinner.

Of course, the two aforementioned points are just my inference on the matter.
 

4Tran

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One key point which carrier-based AEW&C aircrafts (E-2C/D and KJ-600) excels at is their STOL capability. This is a major factor of consideration for the JASDF, which is why they operate 18x (and increasing) E-2C/Ds, versus only a meager fleet of 4x E-767s - Mainly due to the need for operating from many of their islands with only short runways available on them.

Though, when it comes to KJ-600 - Despite bearing a lot of similarities to the E-2C/D, how much do they differ from one another?

For one, given that the KJ-600 is anticipated/expected to be propelled by two WJ-10/AEP500 turboprop engines with 5000 kW of power output (which is a significant step-up over the T56-A-427A and WJ-6C’s ~3800 kW), could the KJ-600 operate from the STOBAR twins (albeit only from launch position #3)? If that's a yes, then there will be a need for at least 8 more KJ-600s.

Moreover, there's the question of whether the KJ-600 is capable of high-altitude operations in mountainous terrains. If that's also a yes, this means the KJ-600 could be deployed at the frontline airbases across the Xizang Plateau. Given that they don't need runways that are as long as land-based aircrafts, their STOL capability could come in handy for operations in high-altitude airbases where the atmosphere is thinner.

Of course, the two aforementioned points are just my inference on the matter.
A bigger AWACS plane with longer endurance and better radar is so vastly superior to a smaller AWACS plane that I don't see the PLAAF ever ordering KJ-600. They already have KJ-500s on the Indian border and they won't have any use for a less capable plane. The tradeoff in performance is only worth it on carriers because a bigger plane is not an option. There's a reason why the PLAN still operates land-based AWACS. By the way, this is precisely why the USAF dropping the E-7 in favor of the E-2D is such a disaster.
 
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