JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

[TheFuture_NoMore]

There has been no pictures of the JF17C with PL15s or any offical specification that it can carry them, in all likelyhood the JF17C cannot carry them and they are deferred to the J10CEs in PAF service.

The main change in the JF17C was dual-rack launchers for SD-10s interms of its air to air capabilities and the PL-10s.

 

[Blitzo]

There has been no pictures of the JF17C with PL15s or any offical specification that it can carry them, in all likelyhood the JF17C cannot carry them and they are deferred to the J10CEs in PAF service.

The main change in the JF17C was dual-rack launchers for SD-10s interms of its air to air capabilities and the PL-10s.

That is also going a bit far into the other direction, given that structurally there should be no reason why JF-17 is unable to accommodate PL-15Es, and it's not like we are getting accurate details as to what the weapons set of JF-17 Block III is meant to be anyway.

It may well be at this stage that PAF has only limited stocks of PL-15Es, and in that case it naturally makes more sense to fit them to their J-10CPs in service as a matter of higher priority, and only once they reach a certain threshold that we will start seeing JF-17 Block IIIs with them.


At this stage we cannot make any educated guesses in either direction as to whether JF-17 Block III is able to carry PL-15Es or not, and "we don't know" is the best answer at present.

 

[by78]

JF-17 at the Dubai Airshow.

 

[by78]

Self-explanatory.

 

[no_name]

Apparently JF-17 block 3 uses J-20 style helmet provides off-boresight aiming and firing of missiles.

 

[Deino]

Apparently?

 

[ougoah]

Apparently JF-17 block 3 uses J-20 style helmet provides off-boresight aiming and firing of missiles.

It has been rumoured that JF-17 Blk 3 uses HMD and high off boresight missile cuing via the HMD but it wouldn't be the exact same system on the J-20 for obvious engineering related reasons and more obviously, for security reasons.

It's quite likely the engineers applied many aspects of other Chengdu AC's HMD projects but because of J-20 and indeed even J-10C's opsec, it should be doubted that JF-17's HMD are indicative of J-20's in performance and in operation. It isn't difficult for a Pakistani person working with the Blk3 to leak intel to the US or anyone else.

 

[Gloire_bb]

It's quite likely the engineers applied many aspects of other Chengdu AC's HMD projects but because of J-20 and indeed even J-10C's opsec, it should be doubted that JF-17's HMD are indicative of J-20's in performance and in operation.

HMD ultimately isn't a magic ball, it's a device closely related to comparable civilian technology(which tends to develop faster in this field nowadays).

Device itself&indication and functions will be different, of course (if anything, because feed input from jf-17 is much more restricted, and symbology is different in the first place), but i don't see special reasons making it worse just because.

 

[ougoah]

HMD ultimately isn't a magic ball, it's a device closely related to comparable civilian technology(which tends to develop faster in this field nowadays).

Device itself&indication and functions will be different, of course (if anything, because feed input from jf-17 is much more restricted, and symbology is different in the first place), but i don't see special reasons making it worse just because.

Perhaps I wasn't clear. There is no comparison between how capable the two systems are. Performance in my post refer to what the system can and can't do, function, operation, use and so on. The details of which no doubt would be of value to intelligence gathering efforts. With any foreign nation user (and even domestic when it comes to this stuff) the risk of details leaking to the wrong hands would mean how the J-20's HMD "performs" or rather functions woudl no doubt have its differences, to say nothign of the engineering reasons we both mentioned.

 

[phrozenflame]

PAF pilot: "The F-16 block 52 is ancient compared to the avionics on the JF-17 now. We know because we fly them both"