JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread
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Yikes. Wonder what the cause is.
plawolf
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Not much that can be done for those...although I do wonder if anyone ever thought of pulling ship grade horns on fighter jets? Shouldn’t weigh much and can be attached to the landing gear. Have that thing sound on repeat might help prevent at least a few such incidents. Military jets are loud, but only from behind, so having super loud noises being actively emitted from the front might be more effective.
Yeah single-engined fighters have dismal survival rate against bird strikes.
Does that mean that the news from a decade ago that JF17 tested a domestic engine was not true?
Or does it mean the test did not include flying with the engine?
Does it mean there has been no real movement on JF17 using a chinese engine all up till now?
Or does it mean that new engine is STILL not a chinese engine, but a variant of the russian one?
Having a domestic engine for JF17 should have been number 1 priority for the export variant of the plane. But it seems the funding and the political impetus simply was not there. Until now, perhaps.
I must admit I won't dismiss previous reports as being wrong, but only as "a PAF variant will more likely stick to the Russian engine!" and IMO this is most likely a RD-93MA testbed.
It says new engine, not domestic engine. It could be RD-93MA for JF-17 Block III.
To be fair, before J-XX, motivation for a domestic Chinese engine in this class was indeed hard to justify.
Quite unlikely to be WS-13 since that was never intended to go into any PLAAF fighters and only quickly put together to pressure Russia into selling RD-93 engines to the Pakistani JF-17 back in the 2000s. The WS-13 I don't think has ever completed development or been properly funded since RD-93 supplies to Pakistan were inked.
A WS-19 (mid thrust class) engine for J-xy is anticipated. We know it isn't using the WS-10 or WS-15 and it sure isn't using the old WS-13. J-xy is anticipated but unless the engine for the 5th gen fighter is already long completed, is there really any chance China would approve it for use on the JF-17? It'll probably require extensive changes to block 3 which should be completed. The timelines simply do not work out. Therefore it is likely the engine if the rumour is true, is simply a new RD-93 variant.
If J-xy's WS-19 is ready before J-xy, this is both unlikely and it's also unlikely the JF-17 will feature this engine first particularly as unproven engine for a single engined fighter
WS-13's sole purpose was to ensure JF-17 has an engine no matter if Russia decides not to supply RD-93. Beyond this purpose, it has received no funding or completion of development that we know of. No PLAAF fighter is designed for the WS-13 engine.
Leaving only RD-93 new variant which was rumoured anyway. This also means no need for extensive redesign of JF-17 to integrate with WS-19 even if that engine is available now and considered by both China and Pakistan to be mature enough for single engine fighter. Completely impossible.
A WS-19 (mid thrust class) engine for J-xy is anticipated. We know it isn't using the WS-10 or WS-15 and it sure isn't using the old WS-13. J-xy is anticipated but unless the engine for the 5th gen fighter is already long completed, is there really any chance China would approve it for use on the JF-17? It'll probably require extensive changes to block 3 which should be completed. The timelines simply do not work out. Therefore it is likely the engine if the rumour is true, is simply a new RD-93 variant.
If J-xy's WS-19 is ready before J-xy, this is both unlikely and it's also unlikely the JF-17 will feature this engine first particularly as unproven engine for a single engined fighter
WS-13's sole purpose was to ensure JF-17 has an engine no matter if Russia decides not to supply RD-93. Beyond this purpose, it has received no funding or completion of development that we know of. No PLAAF fighter is designed for the WS-13 engine.
Leaving only RD-93 new variant which was rumoured anyway. This also means no need for extensive redesign of JF-17 to integrate with WS-19 even if that engine is available now and considered by both China and Pakistan to be mature enough for single engine fighter. Completely impossible.