How do we know the export price of the J-10? To my knowledge its never been sold to anyone other than PLAAF
JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread
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i'm assuming it including package such as weapons/parts/training etc. consider some F16 is about 30-40million per plane
Ouch. That will be a massive thorn in the UK's side.
It will be interesting to see how western anti-missile systems work against real missiles.
The J-10C can hold more internal fuel, hold two more BVR missiles, has a larger and more powerful AESA. Has superior kinematic performance (assumed but almost certain) across most domains. J-10C also has an IRST and a much more powerful engine in a class above. It probably has better EW and ECM+ECCM and better comms. It definitely has more room for those things than the block 3 JF-17.
The only aspect that block 3 seems to be equal with the J-10C at is its ability to fire PL-15 (still assumed) and uses an AESA. The J-10 can provide more energy for those missiles, carry more of them and perform at satisfactory equivalent, and has a better radar to do all that with.
I don't think the block 3 can be considered not that far from J-10C. It's a modern fighter with modern BVR missile (assuming it gets PL-15) with a modern radar but it still lacks range (something Pakistan doesn't require quite as much but energy is always a plus) and payload capability. Its AESA may be advanced but it's quite limited in size and power compared to literally any other in service fighter AESA except maybe Uttam which I don't believe is currently in service yet and even when reaching service, we have very little idea just how good India's first gen, first attempt at an fighter AESA would be like compared to China's 10 years experience with fighter AESAs and decades long experience with naval and ground based AESAs. Regardless how one feels about that, this unit is surely not as capable as the one in the J-10C.
Even if both fighters carry 6 PL-15s and 2 PL-10s with whatever dual rack pylons arrangement, the J-10 will have more thrust to weight under those payloads and have more range. If three tanks are carried, the J-10 would have a lot more range and another boost to thrust to weight in comparison. These are different classes of fighters like the difference between an Mig-29 and a Su-27, they shouldnt be compared directly as real alternatives even if some performance and definitely capability overlap.
Nice that they have solved the ejector seat ! Glad that it fit in the same space !
There was nothing top solve! In fact the FC-1 flew with a Chinese seat from day one, as such it was nothing but a plain stupid hyped up story.
Chinese ejection seats have been flying on Myanmar Air Force FC-1s for over three years now.
Pakistan wanted another type for commonality with their other fighters ? So the fuss about the United kingdom blocking the sale because of the seat was a freak show ...
Is Pakistan even involved in the sale to Argentina? I thought that they were exporting FC-1 block 3 and Chinese representatives did the demo and Q/A session, but I can be wrong.