JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

plawolf

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Am I the only one who is not hot on the idea of Argentina buying the JF17?

We need to note that the Argentine Air Force of today is a pale shadow of its glory days due to chronic lack of funding.

However, they have somehow retained the snobbery of their golden age, and looks down disdainfully at made in China jets.

My hope is that operating the JF17 will give them a dose of reality to cut through all the pop culture brainwashing that insists everything made in China is trash and make them realise what a great jet it is.

However my worry is that they will act like spoilt rich brats who got a BMW instead of the Ferrari they wanted and take it out on the JF17 with poor treatment of it and constantly heaping unwarranted criticism and put downs in the press to get back at their leaders for not giving them the toys they wanted.

Their poor state of readiness and low competence is also a concern, as there is a risk they would blame any human errors from their pilots on the jet to try to save face.

In addition, there is the political concern that the Argentine government might start getting stupid ideas about their Air Force being a regional powerhouse once more as soon as the first JF17d are delivered and make an ill timed move on the Falklands.

The JF17 Blk3 would struggle against RAF Typhoons even in the hands of the best pilots, with Argentine pilots lacking flight hours in general and not having had time to become fully proficient on the JF17, it would be like commuting suicide with extra steps.

Basically, I would prefer they not sell JF17s to them selling them to air forces that might treat them badly and use them poorly.
 

gelgoog

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Actually I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese supported them on moving in the Falklands.
It would be a great proving ground for testing the weapons and techniques for an invasion of Taiwan.
I doubt they would support an invasion before they were minimally ready for it.
 

Mohsin77

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suicide with extra steps.

:eek: u just ripped off Rick & Morty !

Well that Sounds Like Slavery With Extra Steps | Know Your Meme
 

ougoah

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Actually I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese supported them on moving in the Falklands.
It would be a great proving ground for testing the weapons and techniques for an invasion of Taiwan.
I doubt they would support an invasion before they were minimally ready for it.

Maybe moral support but can't exactly materially support without being targeted by the good old boys even more than they already are.

Also Argentina has no delusions about militarily retaking Falklands. The matter is already much more diplomatically settled today than it was in the 20th century. Argentina has less claim and even less military capability to take the island than it had last time. The UK armed forces have remained at the leading edge more or less while Argentina back in the day were no slouch but is today in no position to challenge the UK. Falklands don't represent any threat to Argentina unlike Taiwan does for China since the conflict within China is a civil war and Taiwan has every opportunity to claim legitimacy on mainland which means it is a security and existential threat ... potentially.

Argentina won't be interested in JF-17, they probably do need something with longer range and more payload for their geography and for Falklands.
 

voyager1

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Could you please continue with these geopolitical consequences in either the Pakistan or South American thread?
Is the Chinese exports thread also suitable for this kind of discussion? Or is it only for confirmed orders? (Talk about potential JF-17 export to Argentine, not geopolitical talk)
 

voyager1

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Britain Could Block Pak-Chinese JF-17 Jet’s Sale to Argentina....​


Martin-Baker supplies its PK16LE ejection seats for the JF-17.


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It doesn't say anything official. Its the usual stuff we all know, that Britain may block it but we dont know for sure yet

Btw can anyone tell me why the JF-17 uses British components, seems like an idiotic choice. Pakistan should go for the Chinese supplier and get rid of any worries about the British torpedoing the deal
 

Deino

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