JF-17/FC-1 Fighter Aircraft thread

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So 17-01 & -02 were both build at CAC.

- As we know neither CAC nor PAC build complete air-frame; as per work share agreement currently Pakistan is tasked to manufacture Front fuselage, both Wings & Tails while China makes Central & Rear Fuselage so as per these arrangements no one make complete fuselage

- Pictures of some sections of fuselage which appeared last year with RUBY nomenclature were only showing Wings & Front fuselage

- So there are more chances that PAC has transported those sections to China for Final Assembly & Delivery to Myanmar.

 

[Hendrik_2000]

That work sharing agreement maybe applied only to Pakistan produced JF17 Chengdu certainly supplied most of the part for the first batches of JF17 I remember it clearly

Certainly Chengdu can do it if they want. I am not sure how the agreement applied to export to other country

 

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That work sharing agreement maybe applied only to Pakistan produced JF17 Chengdu certainly supplied most of the part for the first batches of JF17 I remember it clearly

Certainly Chengdu can do it if they want. I am not sure how the agreement applied to export to other country

Plz revisit your suggestion, as we know

- Pakistan is a 50% partner in JF-17/FC-1 "program" not just licence building it for Pakistani use .....

- For the first batch obviously that was the case, if you allow me to remind

• The first two jets were not only completely built in China but assembled as well & shipped to Pakistan (we just painted them in our desired color scheme; this was officially admitted by PAF Air Chief of that time)
• The other 8 JF-17 of the second batch were just assembled in Pakistan with help of Chinese workers
• And Production started in Pakistan with just 10% Pakistan made contents, current share of Pakistan made parts is around 58%

- And yes its obvious that CAC have the capability to produce complete JF-17 but the 'Assumption' that they are producing the export orders completely in their plant must be supported by some concrete evidence after the surfacing of the pictures of Ruby Fuselage under construction in PAC factory in Pakistan

- Plz also note as per agreement on JF-17 program Pakistan also have an option to raise its share in manufacturing upto 100% but we are not opting it currently.

 

[Zahid]

India is too close and SL too small for them to realistically be able to fend off a determined Indian attack irrespective of what aircraft they have.

For a small country on the doorstep of a much larger and powerful neighbour, good relations is the best strategy unless said small country has a more powerful backer determined to screw with the bigger neighbour.

But even then it is extremely debatable if playing cats paw and potentially making yourself cannon fodder for a big country spat is a particularly worthwhile or sane thing to do irrespective of how much cheddar you are being offered. You can't spend money if you are dead.

It does not quite matter what size India is in relation to its neighbors. A show of strength is necessary for survival. If we were to apply this logic to Pakistan (1/5 of Area, 1/7 of population, 1/10 of economy), then India should have had its way long time ago.

JF-17 is a great defensive asset that has deterrence value for being multirole and having all sorts of munitions tested for use against any aggressor. India would not be foolish enough to go all out against Sri Lanka, while it has 2 more countries to watch to the North and West. Weakness, as history shows, invites aggression.

A smaller country certainly can hold its independent course, if it demonstrates that it can inflict serious damages upon a bigger country in a war of survival.

 

[delft]

That work sharing agreement maybe applied only to Pakistan produced JF17 Chengdu certainly supplied most of the part for the first batches of JF17 I remember it clearly

Certainly Chengdu can do it if they want. I am not sure how the agreement applied to export to other country

I think Chengdu is extremely busy building J-10 ( it seems at a lower rate ) and J-20 so they would not take on more of the JF-17 work than necessary.

 

[FORBIN]

Seems 80 + Pakistanese in service if some have production batch/lots and delivries by year please.
The 5th front line unit seems the 7th Sqn to Karachi/Masroor actualy on Mirage III and V.
Can be armed with nuclear bombs as actualy Mirage and F-16 ?

Myanmar was reportedly the launch export customer of the FC-1/JF-17 platform, signing a contract for 16 fighters during the 2015 Paris Air Show.

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emerged in February that Myanmar was also in talks with the Aviation Industry Corporation of China (AVIC) to produce the FC-1 – possibly the active electronically-scanned array radar-equipped

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variant – under license.

Bar the Mikoyan MiG-29, the Myanmar Air Force comprises of Chinese-built fighters, namely the Chengdu F-7 and Nanchang A-5. The FC-1s will likely supplant the F-7 and A-5 in the air defence and attack roles, which would basically transition those squadrons into multi-role units.

Specifics, such as the configuration of Myanmar’s FC-1s, are not known. However, it is worth noting that Israel appears to be one of Myanmar’s defence suppliers. Building a local technical base for the FC-1 could enable Myanmar to customize its fighters using subsystems and weapons of its selection. When the twin-seat variant JF-17B

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, AVIC said that it had already secured sales for the type. It is possible that the customer for the twin-seat variant (FC-1B) is Myanmar.

The JF-17/FC-1 was initiated as a joint-program between CAC and the Pakistan Aeronautical Complex (PAC) in 1999. It conducted its maiden flight in 2003. The JF-17, a subvariant configured by PAC for the Pakistan Air Force (PAF), was brought into service in 2010 with the No. 26 Squadron Black Spiders. By 2011, the PAF phased-out its Nanchang A-5 fleet with the JF-17.

Since then, more than 80 JF-17s were delivered to the PAF, which are in service with

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in each of the PAF’s three regional commands. In 2015-2016, the PAF began the process of raising a sixth JF-17 squadron. The sixth unit will likely complete the phasing-out of the PAF’s legacy Chengdu F-7P fighters.

In terms of exports, PAC and AVIC also secured Nigeria as a buyer (for three aircraft) in 2016. Efforts were also made to pitch the platform to

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[Zahid]

There are unconfirmed reports of PAF JF-17 shooting down an Iranian drone in Balochistan province.

 

[jobjed]

With external drop tanks.

 

[Zahid]

There are unconfirmed reports of PAF JF-17 shooting down an Iranian drone in Balochistan province.

Confirmed. The Iranian drone was shot down in Balochistan's district of Panjgur. Local media pictures attached show the drone wreckage.

 

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Confirmed. The Iranian drone was shot down in Balochistan's district of Panjgur. Local media pictures attached show the drone wreckage.

Congrats to our Pakistanis friends on the first JF-17 kill. Probably will boost sails in South East Asia.